Disheartened healer annoyed with Shadowbringers' difficulty

[Lodi]

I disagree but it's only based on my encounters with healers in the leveling dungeons. 9 times out of 10 I'm the last one alive and I'm a monk. I seriously think the dungeons actually DO hit harder. I've seen it so many times since the start. Tanks going down so fast, hell MY tank gets hit hard and I use my CDs, upgrade my gear etc etc and I STILL damn well almost die. Heals are weaker and it shows. I might just have ran with nothing but shitty healers too.. but that's ALOT of shitty healers then.

Yes, they do. Indirectly.

One thing that not everyone noticed is, our healing barely went up from 70 to 80. Everyone has half more health, enemies deal half more damage, but our healing is still about the same.

Another thing is, defensive/survivability cooldowns got wiped across the board.
Convalescence, Anticipation, Awareness, Eye for an eye, Largesse, Protect. Additionally, PLD lost Bulwark, SCH lost Rouse and AST lost The Bole.
That sounds like a lot of lost mitigation to me.


Heals are weaker, tanks are squishier, and we both lost several tools used to make healing easier.

[WaterShield]

I disagree but it's only based on my encounters with healers in the leveling dungeons. 9 times out of 10 I'm the last one alive and I'm a monk. I seriously think the dungeons actually DO hit harder. I've seen it so many times since the start. Tanks going down so fast, hell MY tank gets hit hard and I use my CDs, upgrade my gear etc etc and I STILL damn well almost die. Heals are weaker and it shows. I might just have ran with nothing but shitty healers too.. but that's ALOT of shitty healers then.

Dungeons aren't any harder than they ever were. What you are noticing is a larger amount of low skilled players queuing, without being able to rely on over gearing content as a crutch. This happens every expansion. It will normalize as sight seers leave (meaning more chance of getting skilled players in roulette's), as power creep begins with successive gear, and newer players that stay, gain more skill.

[Insertcoins]

Dungeons aren't any harder than they ever were. What you are noticing is a larger amount of low skilled players queuing, without being able to rely on over gearing content as a crutch. This happens every expansion. It will normalize as sight seers leave (meaning more chance of getting skilled players in roulette's), as power creep begins with successive gear, and newer players that stay, gain more skill.

I think they do hit harder. I ALSO think it's a gear issue too, but again I'm sittign here on monk and my breako and I notice the difference. Maybe they aren't harder but you aren't telling me they don't hit harder... cause they do. Heals did get weaker, and all of that combined makes a difference. Not saying that more shitty players aren;t around cause they are. But it's more then just that. SE made good on their promise on making people have to heal more. I know it won't last cause one of this game's issues is throwing gear at us faster then Sonic on speed shoes but yeah. I'm of the opinion things DO hit harder. I've seen WAY too many wipes and near deaths even in expert to say otherwise.

Tho yes I do agree you're not wrong at all about the skill levels and gear.. it's actually my biggest issue is overpowered gear. I just think obs do hit abit harder too.. but I'm just going off what I've seen.

[WaterShield]

I think they do hit harder. I ALSO think it's a gear issue too, but again I'm sittign here on monk and my breako and I notice the difference. Maybe they aren't harder but you aren't telling me they don't hit harder... cause they do. Heals did get weaker, and all of that combined makes a difference. Not saying that more shitty players aren;t around cause they are. But it's more then just that. SE made good on their promise on making people have to heal more. I know it won't last cause one of this game's issues is throwing gear at us faster then Sonic on speed shoes but yeah. I'm of the opinion things DO hit harder. I've seen WAY too many wipes and near deaths even in expert to say otherwise.

Tho yes I do agree you're not wrong at all about the skill levels and gear.. it's actually my biggest issue is overpowered gear. I just think obs do hit abit harder too.. but I'm just going off what I've seen.

My point was that they hit just as much harder as the leveling dungeons in Storm blood did at first. Thus, this is normal content cycle, not an actual change in design direction.

I saw this same exact argument play out in Storm Blood "We have to heal more now" "Square doesn't want Healers DPSing". In the end, nothing changed.

[NanaWiloh]

Firgures everyone saying healing is easier is playing Whm the OP healer at moment. With Scholar not far behind..

[Alphras]

I am playing SCH and we have more healing than we need for level 80 content at the moment.

Edit: Except one wall to wall pull in the 80 dungeons maybe.

[WaterShield]

Firgures everyone saying healing is easier is playing Whm the OP healer at moment. With Scholar not far behind..

1 under tuned job doesn't mean anything by itself. Expect buffs to healing potency's on AST.

[NanaWiloh]

1 under tuned job doesn't mean anything by itself. Expect buffs to healing potency's on AST.

Grossly under tuned..Like its not even funny how badly tuned Ast is right now.

[Dixa]

Dungeons aren't any harder than they ever were. What you are noticing is a larger amount of low skilled players queuing, without being able to rely on over gearing content as a crutch. This happens every expansion. It will normalize as sight seers leave (meaning more chance of getting skilled players in roulette's), as power creep begins with successive gear, and newer players that stay, gain more skill.

It’s not as simple as inexperienced players playing roles they are not familiar with

The game has had protect since the beginning for all healers. That’s gone. The tanks and healers all lost mitigation cooldowns. Overall the entire group is getting hit harder.

[NanaWiloh]

It’s not as simple as inexperienced players playing roles they are not familiar with

The game has had protect since the beginning for all healers. That’s gone. The tanks and healers all lost mitigation cooldowns. Overall the entire group is getting hit harder.

Ya, No protect, Bole changed to dmg buff, no eye for eye, Gravity debuff removed.