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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Does Hydaelyn give out the echo? It has been years since I played the first part of the story so I can't remember if it's ever really mentioned how we get it.
    As of today, the vast majority of the Echo-blessed we've seen are said to have received it from Hydaelyn, both in-world and out-of-world. Hydaelyn is the, "Hear, Feel, Think" when people awaken, the source of the vision of the Starshower (which once appeared over Silvertear Lake and at this point could be anything). In interviews, Koji and Oda have supported the in-game narrative explicitly. Could NeW ReVeLaTiOnS prove there's more to it? Of course! But, for now, yes, Hydaelyn is the source of our (and many other) Echoes. That said, the Sahagin elder directly credited Elidibus with his awakening, so...

    It was originally stated that Hydaelyn was just like, "Aha, that one." and that She had some idea of what She looked for in someone who had the means, motive, and opportunity to do the things She needed done. 5.0 suggested there might be more to that, as well. Perhaps the summoners of Hydaelyn were twelve in number. Perhaps those souls were sundered like all others. Perhaps when the Ascians start kicking Her shins, Hydaelyn starts firing Echo buckshot into the crowd but singles out those twelve especially to lead them, whoever or wherever they may be. Perhaps that's why history always remembers Her champions as being twelve in number.

    I loathe the Final Fantasy tropes where we suddenly transcend all tiers of existence and become god or are revealed to have always been some cosmic powerhouse. I like when we become special, and then one day go back to being a regular old human. The perfect ending of FFXIV for me is the Warrior of Light retired, hanging out at the Drowning Wench with a drink and smiling at an obviously newly-formed party about to leave for their first adventure. That said, if the Warrior of Light's Ancient persona was somehow deeply connected to Hydaelyn all along and this was Her hail-mary play to come back from the brink at the last moment, hoping that the sundered shard of Her old acquaintance would pull through, and then we just got to go on being ourselves, I think that'd still be okay.
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    Let's not forget that the WoL (and scions or anyone given it by Hydaelyn) has an uncontrollably ability to see into something's past and view it as if they are there. The situation in which it happens is usuay very specific to something the WoL or scions are experiencing in the moment.
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    The WoL is more than just some rando chosen by Hydaelyn and imbued with the echo and the Blessing. Right before we fight Hades, there’s a brief moment where we appear as an ancient. The belief is that means we are either a reincarnation or a piece of the soul of one of the ancients who opposed Zodiark and summoned Hydaelyn in response. This happened after Ardbert fused with us so that may well mean that when a Rejoining happens, we fuse with that reflection’s piece of our soul.
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    Ryne does get one echo vision and it's the exact same one our WoL gets when we are trying to get to the area that Minfillia stops the flood. She even goes , " is this " before the screen goes to the vision. Granted she was still being called Minfillia at the time but it still is a vision with the echo.
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    Last edited by Rannie; 07-15-2019 at 06:28 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Ryne does get one echo vision and it's the exact same one our WoL gets when we are trying to get to the area that Minfillia stops the flood. She even goes , " is this " before the screen goes to the vision. Granted she was still being called Minfillia at the time but it still is a vision with the echo.
    Once more I forget so many things, thank you. But yeah Ryne has Echo 100% then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Once more I forget so many things, thank you. But yeah Ryne has Echo 100% then.
    Yw half the time I've been on playing the game I've been watching cutscenes over and over again between leveling dancer and getting tomes... Well certain cutscenes <.<>.>. I've almost watched them enough times to where I can quote them verbatim... I have no life outside of work *hangs head*
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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