Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
actually in all honesty you do not lose any damage output regardless if you are on thm or blm. if you are managing your hate and effectively playing your job and class you do not take a hit by being on thm. convert is not used in most long boss battles. the mp skills from bard effectively take care of that along with your normal resting due to hate.
You know what's better than Chameleon to help out with that enmity ceiling?

Chameleon + Freeze.

To each his own though. I guess everyone figures things out at their own pace.