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    Shields devalued by devs

    Dear SE design team,
    Last week I cleared The Crown of Immaculate Extreme and was surprised to notice that healer shields do not work on the boss ultimate attack after killing ads. My question is - WHY?
    Why you keep doing this for some fights, and why is it becoming a norm? There are other ways to make fight more punishing, rather than making people with 2 vulnstacks die to an ultimate attack that cannot be shielded. Maybe remove them shields altogether then, since it is clear that you want healer to just spam "1" reducing value of their healing toolkit to by making design decisions like these.
    Best Regards, Aluvian Darkstar@Twintania
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    Typhoria Nightwish
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    Are you talking about Adlo type shielding of Sacred Soil damage reduction? I know for a fact that I've had both of the Ex "limits" deal 0 damage to me as a tank.

    Regarding Vulnerability, having one stack during the "limit" seems to put healers/DPS into critical health no matter what. A second stack at that point is just death regardless.
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Uh was gonna Answer but Typhoria pointed it out Vuln stacks are NOT your friends avoid getting hit.

    The irony of the signature statement though.
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    Jacqueline Bellerose
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    Shields work, but you have to apply them before the add phase ends. I'm assuming this is a bug more so than an intentional feature
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimloth View Post
    Shields work, but you have to apply them before the add phase ends. I'm assuming this is a bug more so than an intentional feature
    Really then? Thanks for the valuable input. I just never seen them working regardless of group, always that adlo spread being unaffected by damage. Some even speculated that shields only make it worse lol
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    I've had several issues with Innocence with Random Deaths for no particular reason at all that I wouldn't doubt there were several glitches involved. Hell, I've had times when someone without Vulnerability died, even with Sacred Soil, Temperance, and Passage of Arms all going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    Uh was gonna Answer but Typhoria pointed it out Vuln stacks are NOT your friends avoid getting hit.

    The irony of the signature statement though.
    I find it funny how people are quick to put an emphasis on a certain bit of a message and make it sound like OP is an idiot. Never did I endorse farming vulnstacks, but rather point out that there literally no way to even try to shield that person with critlo in attempt to save him if such situation happened after all
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    Malto Thoris
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    Ya Innocence's ultimate attack snapshots right when the last add dies. So if you're going to shield the attack you want to do it before the last add dies.
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    Eileen White
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    It’s pretty finicky at best, so if anything I think it’s just a bug with the attack itself as someone stated. With all Boss Ultimates(Delta Attack, Divine Judgment, Being Mortal) generally you have time to set up and mitigate. Might want to submit a Bug Report In-Game to get this pushed.
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    thanks everyone. i really thought this was a design decision (and many other people i know too). gonna submit a ticket, see what happens
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