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  1. #101
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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by AnakhaSilver View Post
    I'm gonna be honest, it's like you guys want them to reinvent the game every expansion. MMOs live and die by reliability. If they change it too much, then people don't know what they're signing up for. There's a formula because then people know that there will be SOMETHING they enjoy.
    More like we don't want them to reinvent the game because when they do, this happens /gestures to class sabotaging
    I kid, I know you mean those complaining about "formulas." I personally don't mind formulas so long as the gameplay/mechs are different enough that it doesn't feel like I'm doing the same trials, just with a different skin, which I think they tend to always do.
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

  2. #102
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    Misty Regions
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Yah, dont understand why the game doesn't stop evolving! I want it exactly the same at 2.0 for 30 years.
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  3. #103
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    IamBetterThanYou's Avatar
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    Chief Littlepaw
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Bye. Cya. Sayonara. Ciao. Adios.
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  4. #104
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    how is releasing the literal exact thing as before losing identity
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  5. #105
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    Kaylessa Sylverlur
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    how is releasing the literal exact thing as before losing identity
    To steal a quote from that blizzard dude "your class is the lens through which you view the world". The OP mains a healer, and depending which healer you play (any other than white mage) you could definitely feel a loss of identity.
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  6. #106
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
    To steal a quote from that blizzard dude "your class is the lens through which you view the world". The OP mains a healer, and depending which healer you play (any other than white mage) you could definitely feel a loss of identity.
    True, but the OP seemed to go in at least 4-5 different directions. It wasn't just about healing, but I'm not entirely sure what the root of their frustrations were. They were just angry.
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  7. #107
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    Xiel Naweh
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    Seraph
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    Bard Lv 100
    The story is great, but I do wish they would upgrade their formula, even if slightly.
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  8. #108
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    Elcia Deilinus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shawnaus17 View Post
    I love this game I do! I enjoyed playing for like 4 years. I feel like SE thinks we are stupid this is the exact same thing over and over and over. Next expansion will take my money elsewhere because there is no more growth. That's why I pay is to have growth but sorry I'm not gonna buy into this anymore. I started out as SMN but went healers and the fact they didn't add another healer and the generic feel to the current 3. This is not what I call a final fantasy game.
    I mean... you say the game has lost its identity by... not changing?

    You realize that doesn't make sense right?

    I'm also not sure how healers being generic doesn't feel Final Fantasy- healing's always been pretty straight forward in FF games, heck for the most part it's solely white mages and items that do healing.
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  9. #109
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus View Post
    I mean... you say the game has lost its identity by... not changing?

    You realize that doesn't make sense right?

    I'm also not sure how healers being generic doesn't feel Final Fantasy- healing's always been pretty straight forward in FF games, heck for the most part it's solely white mages and items that do healing.
    Just healing has never been the identity of SCHs in this game. Imagine having sunk hundreds of hours into something you love doing to get to level cap, gear up, etc., and then having that transformed into something you have no interest in playing, forcing you to start from scratch. I’m sure SE did a great job with most of this expansion. I’ve heard great things about the story, and I can’t wait to play it. But as a player who hasn’t reached those quests yet, it feels like I just paid $60 (+ decent monthly sub) for a downgrade.

    And AST... AST is worse.

    I don’t think this whole expansion is a wash by any means, but I completely understand why the OP is so upset.
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  10. #110
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    Ibkee Hakadosh
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatstand View Post
    Just healing has never been the identity of SCHs in this game. Imagine having sunk hundreds of hours into something you love doing to get to level cap, gear up, etc., and then having that transformed into something you have no interest in playing, forcing you to start from scratch. I’m sure SE did a great job with most of this expansion. I’ve heard great things about the story, and I can’t wait to play it. But as a player who hasn’t reached those quests yet, it feels like I just paid $60 (+ decent monthly sub) for a downgrade.

    And AST... AST is worse.

    I don’t think this whole expansion is a wash by any means, but I completely understand why the OP is so upset.
    "I haven't played Shadowbringers yet, but I can totally agree that it causes the game to lose it's identity"

    Maybe try the job first before being so doom and gloom. I'm enjoying SCH at 80 and know several others who feel the same.
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