How Bad Is Healer Damage Now?

[TheArchivis95]

So I played WHM just a tiny bit at the end of Stormblood, and not even at max level. I enjoyed it quite a bit, and was wanting to go AST in Shadowbringers, but I heard that their damage is kind of crud, and while I do want to do group content obviously, I also plan on doing world content and soloing a bit. So what should I be anticipating in terms of that?

[Kabooa]

So I played WHM just a tiny bit at the end of Stormblood, and not even at max level. I enjoyed it quite a bit, and was wanting to go AST in Shadowbringers, but I heard that their damage is kind of crud, and while I do want to do group content obviously, I also plan on doing world content and soloing a bit. So what should I be anticipating in terms of that?

Soloing is fine. Bring your chocobo.

[Urthdigger]

Damage hasn't really been reduced, it's more that we have less damage options than we did in earlier expansions (One single target, one AoE, on DoT.) So, damage is perfectly possible, it's just... boring.

[RopeDrink]

WHM topping the charts during large AoE pulls thanks to Holy, Afflatus and Assize. Single target will see you compete with the tank and any sleeper-DPS depending on how much freedom you have - again, mostly with one button - but expect to be last or 3rd at all times in any normal situation.

I levelled WHM first as that has been my main since ARR and it was an absolute breeze in both solo and group content, albeit not the most thrilling experience due to lack of damage options. No Chocobo seeing as I have mine set as a Healer. Provided you are not off-put but the simple fact that you will mostly be using 2 buttons (GCD's and Afflatus aside), then it is currently the go-to if you put any value in pumping out damage as a Healer.

Bear in mind that this may do a 180 flip seeing as patches are soon on the horizon and we've no idea how (or if) they may rebalance the Healers.

Can't speak for AST or SCH as I have touched neither in SHB.

[Metsonm]

Based on Titania Ex I'm seeing these numbers. The 6 are the highest and lowest from DPS/TANK/HEAL so you get an idea of range:

50th percentile
-Black Mage 9,749.63
-Dancer 7,813.97
-Gunbreaker 6,050.13
-Dark Knight 5,799.02
-White Mage 4,428.75
-Astrologian 2,863.82

75th
-Black Mage 10,762.09
-Dancer 8,330.20
-Gunbreaker 6,443.61
-Dark Knight 6,191.38
-White Mage 5,300.91
-Astrologian 3,662.17

95th
-Black Mage 12,129.30
-Dancer 8,971.12
-Gunbreaker 6,913.55
-Dark Knight 6,655.99
-White Mage 6,371.30
-Astrologian 4,657.35

WHM right now is in a fantastic place and their personal DPS likely far outweighs any buffs brought by the others. AST, on the other hand, may be slightly lacking at this early stage. But it will take someone more patient than I to properly work out the DPS contribution from their buffs at different levels of play. But as their cards got hit pretty hard I'm going to assume it's not looking good.

That said, we're due the first rough balance patch either this maintenance, or the one for Savage, so expect a few numbers to jump around very soon.

[Kuurei]

My guildmate's not even capped and is pulling an easy 2.6k on Titania as WHM -- he's slightly more aggressive than me lol. He was 2.6k dps vs 7.7k hps, I was 1.6k dps vs 10k hps last time we went through.

Healer damage isn't necessarily bad, it's just..boring. The healing portion of the job, as expected, is generally more fun. Especially when something actually goes wrong somewhere.

[Nethereal]

Output is the same as when you had more skills. They just removed skills and adjusted your remaining ones. WHM dps is insane rn btw.

[Deceptus]

My guildmate's not even capped and is pulling an easy 2.6k on Titania as WHM -- he's slightly more aggressive than me lol. He was 2.6k dps vs 7.7k hps, I was 1.6k dps vs 10k hps last time we went through.

Healer damage isn't necessarily bad, it's just..boring. The healing portion of the job, as expected, is generally more fun. Especially when something actually goes wrong somewhere.

So at 2.6K dps, damage output is actually less than SB?

[gumas]

solo is fine and yes bring your chicken.

as for party, personally from my experience, 80% of the time if tank aggro 2-3 mobs at once, you probably busy healing the tank instead of doing damage nowadays. when there is 1-2 enemy left then you have some window to help dps.

[Gula]

If you'd like a green DPS have you considered RDM?