On Fey Blessing...

[SayuyuYuyu]

Right, but the issue is that I basically have to put everything on the Fairy, on cooldown, before using Dissipation in order to not lose the functionality of the Fairy itself.
Right now, Embrace is critting pretty regularly for about 4500+, with an average hit of 3000.
So basically, assuming we've made sure that everything the Fairy could do during that 30 seconds is used, we then have 30 seconds of Dissipation buffing Phsyic/Adlo by roughly the same amount as Embrace was doing anyway. Assuming we're dropping those heals on a Tank, Embrace would aim at the Tank in question too. So what we gain is minimal at best.

I just don't understand why it needs to have so many built in restrictions and drawbacks for the minimal benefits it provides on the recast that it has.
Especially when compared to Neutral Sect and Temperence, both of which are significantly more powerful, have zero drawbacks AND have lower cooldowns!


I'd also like to point out that we lose Union during this time, which has an average 8500 tick that crits for 12k that we lose by Dissipating in an emergency rather than using Union and Adloqs to stabilise.
Where NS and Temp reinforce the flavor of their respective jobs in their effects, Dissipation cuts out the one thing that makes Scholar a unique Healer.

I just elaborated in detail why a lot of what you just said isn't true, but i'll go over it again quickly.

Putting everything on your fairy on cooldown is typically your first priority, unless you need a specific cooldown for a specific part of the fight that will happen before that cooldown is back. In which case you'd hold your ability and don't Dissipate your fairy when you need it. SCH healing has been and always will be most efficiently done through effective cooldown management, and you can effectively manage Dissipating.

You Dissipate before raidwide damage and nothing more, because Embrace can't be controlled during periods of raidwide damage, so you can't rely on it to do meaningful healing. Having 20% stronger shields on the other hand is much more meaningful. The only time you actually want Embrace to be doing anything is during periods of downtime when only the tank is taking damage. On average tanks now have 100,000 health, which if Embrace does an average of 3000 healing per cast, it'll take over 33 casts to heal the tank from 1 to full (which would work out at around 1 minute and 40 seconds of just raw Embracing). It's not useless, but it's not too amazing either. But as I also said before, Dissipation is a cooldown that needs to be used appropriately - using it at a time when the main tank would just be eating auto attacks isn't a good idea.

Regarding Temperance and N-Sect, see: Largesse. But also Dissipation doesn't have drawbacks when used appropriately.

You also lose Fey Union during Seraph, but that doesn't mean Seraph is (entirely) useless.

You don't use Dissipate for emergencies, you use it planned.

[SayuyuYuyu]

Well it’s clear that Fey blessing is a great skillGDC ability almost as powerful as Indo.

No-where near it.

Delayed effect because long animation make it possible to plan and to use it as a filler while dpsing.

It's about 1-2 seconds delayed. This isn't even a full GCD window. You also need to make room to cast it as an oGCD, when a better oGCD which does more healing would have sufficed more.

high potency

See above.

clipping twice (0:07 x 2 = 1.4 sec) instead than double weaving

No.

The best way to use it when your fairy gauge is at 100 before to use aether pack or you have the last 10 fairy point of your aetherpack and you transmuted into an aoe heal.

The best way to use it is when people need healed, except you use Whispering Dawn, Indom, or Sacred Soil instead because they heal more for the same opportunity cost.

Till now what have you been doing when you find yourself without Indo and need an instant heal? Use succor and clipping it with ET now you have Fey Blessing!

I don't. Alternating between Whispering Dawn and Indom was always enough for me.

Btw Fey Blessing it’s so versatile and smooth to use, you know when you cast it and when it will heal.

But you just said before it has a delay, so how can it be smooth to use? Also it has less versatility than Indom since you can only use it once every 60s. An example of a versatile spell would be Sacred Soil.

Great help if the group is behind and you struggle to heal, a fey blessing will “bless “ you better than a succor

What?

Regarding Dissipation, see the rest of the thread.
I don't want to sound rude but to me, you clearly do not understand how to play SCH at all.

[JohnSeal]

Well considering what you are saying, you seem pretty confused xD as a healer you should learn how to use efficiently all your tool not “discriminate “ other abilities because they not of your taste. Still think FB it’s great and feel really versatile and smooth to me. And btw SS it’s strong but not practical because is ground targeted or macro so need to weave it with R2 or Bio so annoying tbh

[SayuyuYuyu]

Well considering what you are saying, you seem pretty confused xD as a healer you should learn how to use efficiently all your tool not “discriminate “ other abilities because they not of your taste. Still think FB it’s great and feel really versatile and smooth to me. And btw SS it’s strong but not practical because is ground targeted or macro so need to weave it with R2 or Bio so annoying tbh

From what I can see, you're the confused person here who doesn't have the slightest idea about SCH optimization.
I'd be willing to listen to you, but honestly I can't really take you seriously either because I think you might be trolling.

Can you post proof that you know how to play SCH well?
Have you cleared Delta/Sigma/Alphascape Savage before they received the Echo buff?
Anything like a screenshot of the Omega mount or the O8S Savage achievement, or a link to an FF Logs profile if you have one? A video would also be good.

[JohnSeal]

I have been playing Sch for years dw (: if you don’t want to listen who cares tbh It’s not worth even to type a wall of text to give you an explanation...

[SayuyuYuyu]

I have been playing Sch for years dw (: if you don’t want to listen who cares tbh It’s not worth even to type a wall of text to give you an explanation...

I never asked for a wall of text. I asked for simple proof that you've completed high-end content.
If you can't do that then I can't take your word for being good at Scholar.
Playing something for a long time doesn't make you good at it either.

[Eloah]

snip

Ummm... where to start.

Okay first DPS. Dissipation came out in HW, so the Largesse argument holds no weight, sorry to say. When SB released SCHs were thrilled since they got a "free healing boost". It definitely became a DPS only skill then.

Regarding the faerie skills. Have you ever played MCH? Remember how MCH had this tiny window which encouraged you to spam/pop every skill imaginable. That's basically what you are describing. Plus if you "have" to use every faerie CD prior to using Dissipation, there are bigger issues going on.

In regards to the ability loss, and what is usable under the time frame. Regardless of personal feelings, SCH still loses 1/3 of its kit, and the other 1/3 is unaffected, the other healers dont have this issue. And barring AST who gained a few more oGCD heals, the other two have a greater array of skills to use with the buff. Plus neither has any lock out.

About the gauge and her use. The gauges are meant to have a greater impact on gameplay, and building them up to use skills over and over as needed is the goal. A goal, I might add,you are pointing out with your issue on Fey Blessing. If SCHs still had a DPS option for Aetherflow, I don't think the gauge loss would matter as much. But since building the gauge is harder now, it matters. As for the faerie's role, even if a majority of the heals provided by her are longer oGCD skills, the point is, besides for level lockouts, SCHs should lose part of their kit, period. One of the biggest issues being SCH has no spammable heals, mostly because the faerie is supposed to make up for that difference. But if you remove her what then?

As for the other buff skills the other healers get. The Largesse issue once again doesn't hold much weight. True all healers lost it, but all healers lost it. If anything's WHM should be more pissed since it was removed from their kit then given back to them. But the biggest thing is that the other 2 healers don't lose anything. Regardless of personal preference SCH still loses 1/3 of its skills and the other 1/3 is unaffected by the buff. Not to mention you could blow through your Aetherflow stacks in 3 seconds if things are, less than " ideal".

I'm not saying some people wont find a use for Dissipation, nor that it might not have its niche uses in certain situations. But the fact remains, SCH loses access to part of their kit while the other healers get two buffs for the price of one.now if the skill reduced MP cost, made Aetherflow skills usable without the stack, automatically reset Aetherflow, like the Tri-Disaster reset. Something to make the skill more noteworthy.

One other thing that doesnt help, and this is just bad on SE's part. When Excognition was implimented it sucked, and made no sense at all, but SE fixed it to it's current state, and now it's a great skill. Dissipation never got that that kind of "love". So it's had 4+ years of being a bad/awkward skill. They finally removed One Ilm Punch for a similar reason. My hope is a quick fix I can "suffer" with, for several skills really, but for a complete removal of Dissipation in 6.0 and an ability reshuffle. Getting the Fey Gauge earlier would be nice, and Seraph to align with Bahamut. Since gauges are becoming more important, I think SE is trying to retroactively place them in the 50-60 range.

[Rubiss]

Well considering what you are saying, you seem pretty confused xD as a healer you should learn how to use efficiently all your tool not “discriminate “ other abilities because they not of your taste. Still think FB it’s great and feel really versatile and smooth to me. And btw SS it’s strong but not practical because is ground targeted or macro so need to weave it with R2 or Bio so annoying tbh

If you think Fey Blessing is great, you're overhealing, 100%. It's by far, the worst healing spell Scholar has. It heals for so little that it's only ever worth casting if you're already moving. It's never worth clipping Broil II or using with a Ruin II by itself. It's horrible. Sacred Soil is much better. Even worth clipping for, it's so much potency and mitgation.

[Mesarthim]

I've gone many runs without using Fey Blessing even a single time. It's that forgettable.

[Kalinas]

I'm just kinda confused on why it's not converted into another ability when you use Seraph...you can't use Fey Blessing when Seraph is out anyway.

Embrace to Seraphic Veil.
Whispering Dawn to Angel's Whisper.
Fey illumination to Seraphic Illumination.

Fey Blessing to ?

Consolation should have been the evolved form of Fey Blessing and called something like Seraphic Blessing or Angel's Consolation.