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    Popolio Fifilio
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    Expectations are ruining this game

    So I started playing this game about 6 months ago with my fiance. Neither of us knew much of anything about it and that was a huge part of why I was so excited to play it.

    But now, the expectation that you're supposed to look up and know everything about a dungeon before doing it is literally ruining it for me. I understand being frustrated when someone doesn't know the mechanics, trust me. But getting pissed off at someone for not knowing when it's their first time going through is so stupid.

    Literally my fiance feels like they CAN'T tank a dungeon without memorizing the mechanics completely before going through because they know people who've done it before will get pissed off and yell at them for it.

    I absolutely hate this bullshit. Let people learn as they go. You shouldn't have to research things before doing them.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Never had or heard about people having to look up Dungeons before playing one.
    Raids and EX Primals is one thing, but dungeons, never had to do that.

    Guess you've just had bad luck with getting decent people in your groups.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Its not expected. But if you dont tell people you are new and its your first time doing the dungeon, then yea they are going to expect that you have done the dungeon before and have an idea of the mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lascivus View Post
    So I started playing this game about 6 months ago with my fiance. Neither of us knew much of anything about it and that was a huge part of why I was so excited to play it.

    But now, the expectation that you're supposed to look up and know everything about a dungeon before doing it is literally ruining it for me. I understand being frustrated when someone doesn't know the mechanics, trust me. But getting pissed off at someone for not knowing when it's their first time going through is so stupid.

    Literally my fiance feels like they CAN'T tank a dungeon without memorizing the mechanics completely before going through because they know people who've done it before will get pissed off and yell at them for it.

    I absolutely hate this bullshit. Let people learn as they go. You shouldn't have to research things before doing them.
    Have you tried joining/starting a FC? or even a linkshell(set up a party finder), make some friends that are like-minded?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Never had or heard about people having to look up Dungeons before playing one.
    Raids and EX Primals is one thing, but dungeons, never had to do that.

    Guess you've just had bad luck with getting decent people in your groups.
    Like I said, I understand the frustration. But I'm the kind of person who doesn't want to know ANYTHING before doing something. Even with raids. I don't want to know. If you can't handle new people not knowing, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Or like. Explain how it works before jumping in. The game literally tells you that there are new people when you start.
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    Luka Larkspur
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    The only role I've experienced this as is tank, and generally only in trials or raids, not in dungeons..

    Last night I did the level 79 dungeon and two of us were new, and didn't want spoilers so we went into the fights blind. We did fine, lol.
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    A healers job is to dps and keep the party alive while doing so, you got the wrong idea about healers.

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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lascivus View Post
    Like I said, I understand the frustration. But I'm the kind of person who doesn't want to know ANYTHING before doing something. Even with raids. I don't want to know. If you can't handle new people not knowing, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Or like. Explain how it works before jumping in. The game literally tells you that there are new people when you start.
    But unless something is said, people could just assume that the "new player" is an alt. Plenty of people play alts. If you want a fully blind run, however, and wish to avoid potential spoilers or drama I would suggest starting your own group through the party finder tool.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lascivus View Post
    Like I said, I understand the frustration. But I'm the kind of person who doesn't want to know ANYTHING before doing something. Even with raids. I don't want to know. If you can't handle new people not knowing, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Or like. Explain how it works before jumping in. The game literally tells you that there are new people when you start.
    on one side you are fully in the right to play your way, on the other if you're joining completely blind some people who have run the content countless times and explained it countless times are going to be a little frustrated when someone joins a dungeon and needs someone to walk them through all of it. Science parties are fun for some, but others they are quite the ordeal. Maybe use party finder so you can specify that you want a blind run?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Popolio Fifilio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    But unless something is said, people could just assume that the "new player" is an alt. Plenty of people play alts. If you want a fully blind run, however, and wish to avoid potential spoilers or drama I would suggest starting your own group through the party finder tool.
    Yea, I get that. Especially since I have plenty of alts myself. It would probably be a good idea to use it, never have though so not sure how it works or how long it takes to find people to do things.

    I still stand by the fact that it's stupid to expect people to know beforehand.
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    Tirantus Dumourn
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    Is this a server/data center thing. Cause it’s exceedingly rare to get more then a “hi” out of anyone running a dungeon no matter what happens. I’ve never once seen players lose their cool over a wipe or two or having people new to the run.

    I almost never look up dungeons ahead of time. If it’s EX content I may look up a quick 5 minute crash course video if I’m doing itbeith total strangers.
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