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    [SPOILERS] No one seems to be talking about that OTHER huge event

    Heavy spoilers ahead.






    The real Zenos not only got his body back, but he freaking killed the emperor.

    Uh...that's like super duper important. He has no interest in continuing his father's schemes. He cares little about the "beasts" of Eorzea, or the struggle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark. He cares nothing at all about Ascians or Calamities. He only wants the Hunt. He only wants his one true friend and enemy: the Warrior of Light. That is literally all he cares about.

    This means that Black Rose and anything else the Garleans were planning probably won't happen now. We'll have to see what happens to Gaius and Estinien, but now the empire is totally unpredictable.

    On top of that, when we get back to the Source and get an update from Tataru, she tells us that there's a weird stalemate now. The Garleans don't appear to be doing anything.

    I'm just curious if people realize the significance of all this?
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    This is what happens when you get between a Yandere and Senpai
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    Honestly Lium, with the way Zenos was portrayed in Stormblood, all that happened in the stinger didn't really come as a surprise to me. He was blood thirsty and Varis was just meh. There's also the fact that we would have fought the empire to a standstill with out the crazy Time Traveling shenanigans. The bigger ripples that are playing now is more of the Zodiark/Hydaelyn relationship and the nature of the WoL's origins it seems.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Of all the things in the world to be right about, this stupid joke...



    The idea that he wants us each to consume one of the gods and fight to the death, though...

    I mean I did keep saying we need something more interesting than his perfectly-executed death in 4.0 to justify him being around.

    This has potential.
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    What can I say? Emet's plot was far more interesting than "Generic Evil Anime Swordsman seeks to sate his fight boner with WoL(D)". Though that to be fair wouldn't be so bad if the guy in question had more personality than wet cardboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJMau View Post
    What can I say? Emet's plot was far more interesting than "Generic Evil Anime Swordsman seeks to sate his fight boner with WoL(D)". Though that to be fair wouldn't be so bad if the guy in question had more personality than wet cardboard.
    hey hey hey!!!! how dare you take away wet cardboard I mean Ilberds I mean wet cardboards signifigance...At least wet cardboard had the tremerity to die when they needed to instead of becoming wannabe Sephiroth.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    I do wonder if Elidibus would have given the go for Black rose anyway after he found out about Emets demise and that the first is now not on the brink of rejoining. Any use of that poison would only lead to normal causalities and not something so huge that a calamity will happen, and since there is no shard ready to join (with the right elements too) any huge loss of life would just mean that he has to work longer again to create a new calamity.

    But it is interesting that he gave up Zenos body that fast and that he even told Zenos so much about Zodiark, Hydealyn and the splits. Maybe he understood that we are Zenos prey and hope that Zenos will kill us? Or he was just stupid and gave the wildcard too much information which might be his end.

    Anyway I found it funny that the one guy that is seen as a monster, who only lives for a good fight to the death and who kills people for mistakes, also has nothing good to say about Black Rose. Tells us a lot about those that wanted to use it.

    We will see how all will turn out. Will he still take the throne, in the hope of finding us faster? Or will he leave the throne open to go on his solo hunt, which will probably lead to another civil war in Garlemald. (Which then could mean that the war against Eorzea is stopped for a while)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I do wonder if Elidibus would have given the go for Black rose anyway after he found out about Emets demise and that the first is now not on the brink of rejoining. Any use of that poison would only lead to normal causalities and not something so huge that a calamity will happen, and since there is no shard ready to join (with the right elements too) any huge loss of life would just mean that he has to work longer again to create a new calamity.

    But it is interesting that he gave up Zenos body that fast and that he even told Zenos so much about Zodiark, Hydealyn and the splits. Maybe he understood that we are Zenos prey and hope that Zenos will kill us? Or he was just stupid and gave the wildcard too much information which might be his end.

    Anyway I found it funny that the one guy that is seen as a monster, who only lives for a good fight to the death and who kills people for mistakes, also has nothing good to say about Black Rose. Tells us a lot about those that wanted to use it.

    We will see how all will turn out. Will he still take the throne, in the hope of finding us faster? Or will he leave the throne open to go on his solo hunt, which will probably lead to another civil war in Garlemald. (Which then could mean that the war against Eorzea is stopped for a while)
    The monologue from Elidibus on the moon made it seem like he's just given up. Everything's gone completely off the rails, he's lost his last two real companions, and he can't predict where things will go from here. Might as well spill the beans to Zenos, hope that he screws up the Source as badly as possible, and try to kill the WoL purely out of spite towards Hydaelyn.
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    Last edited by Daralii; 07-13-2019 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The monologue from Elidibus on the moon made it seem like he's just given up. Everything's gone completely off the rails, he's lost his last two real companions, and he can't predict where things will go from here. Might as well spill the beans to Zenos, hope that he screws up the Source as badly as possible, and try to kill the WoL purely out of spite towards Hydaelyn.
    At this point I think it is safe to say the story may go in a completely different direction away from Zodiark considering how out of hand this are now.

    No one has control and no one knows where things will ended up. The only thing Elidibus can do now is send "Warriors of Light" to kill or prevent the Scions from returning to the Source since Zenos is going for Kefka now and he may become someone so threatening he threatens both Zodiark and Hydaelyn's existence due to how crazy he is.

    As for Garlean Empire, i can see the storyline falling into a Civil War story arc in Garlemald for 6.0.

    Of course there is the question of who will be our new Allies for this Civil War and who will be our newly introduced enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    At this point I think it is safe to say the story may go in a completely different direction away from Zodiark considering how out of hand this are now.

    No one has control and no one knows where things will ended up. The only thing Elidibus can do now is send "Warriors of Light" to kill or prevent the Scions from returning to the Source since Zenos is going for Kefka now and he may become someone so threatening he threatens both Zodiark and Hydaelyn's existence due to how crazy he is.

    As for Garlean Empire, i can see the storyline falling into a Civil War story arc in Garlemald for 6.0.

    Of course there is the question of who will be our new Allies for this Civil War and who will be our newly introduced enemies.
    I definitely expect Garlemald to be our destination just because they modeled so much of the city with so many new assets, which wouldn't make sense if it was just used in the one scene.

    As far as actual Garlean allies go, since I'm sure the Eorzean Alliance, Hrothgar, Dalmascans, and Domans would be eager to join in, I'm honestly not sure. Maxima and Gaius are the only real candidates I see-Maxima likely wouldn't have the support of the people needed to reforge the Populares, let alone take the throne or rebuild the Garlean Republic, and Gaius remains a wildcard both because of his actions(the XIVth having become a rogue legion by ARR) and because of his continued mindset geared toward conquest and his attitude of might making right.

    As far as enemies, any legatus that stands in opposition. Chief among them I'd expect to be Noah van Gabranth.
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