Discrimination against PS4 users?

[seida]

LOL, what are half the posts in this thread even talking about.

But else? Mostly muscle memory.

I have all (!) my skills visually ready literally as they are on my keyboard, no weird visual moving when I press a button and changing layers so I can blindly press like you can on controllers.

Are you.... implying controller users don't use muscle memory? What? I can play without even looking at my hotbar, what "weird visual movement" are you talking about?

Honestly it feels like most of the posters here have no idea what playing on ps4 is like. With an SSD I load into dungeons faster than everyone else most of the time. I do extreme primals and raids with zero problems.

Some of the reactions here are seriously baffling and making up problems that don't exist.

We can't run properly??? I'm speechless.

And most ps4 users have a usb/bluetooth kb, and if I want to voice with my FC or whatever I just open up discord on my laptop. It's not hard.

[Orbus]

I don't even play on ps4, I'm on pc and I opt to use a controller.
An xbone pad specifically.

My boo has cleared both ultimates and does top-tier DPS as SMN on controller... but if we play a game together where he needs to use a mouse and keyboard, he's a bumbling idiot. I tried simply just gathering on a controller and could barely use the camera. It's all about what someone is used to and competent with.

This person gets it.
I'm awful, dreadful, with traditional kb/m mmo controls
I know some find it a simple matter to play keyboard piano with a dozen row of hotkeys and comboing shift and the F# keys to use hotkeys on different rows without having to lift your left hand from the standard wasd position.
But I just can't do that.
If kb/m was the only option, I would honestly have to quit the game because it would actually become nearly unplayable for me at that point.

But at least all that time playing mario and sonic as a kid was good for something, eh?

[Kaedan]

I can 95% guarantee that if you randomly sampled people who get hit by AoE, the vast majority would be PC, not PS4

[CaptainLagbeard]

I can 95% guarantee that if you randomly sampled people who get hit by AoE, the vast majority would be PC, not PS4

I would say the % is pretty comparable to the rate of PC players to PS4 players... As in both kinds stand equally in AoEs.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

So I'm a bit lost here, because there's both PC players that have more lag than PS4, and there's plenty of PC players who play on a controller. So I'm struggling to try and figure out how the OP would even be able to discern if someone is on their PS4 since as long as they have a laptop, they can access discord and "act" as if they're playing on PC.

[Gemina]

They're full of it. If there was a technical delay that gave PS4 players a disadvantage it would have to be addressed, and not glossed over all nonchalantly. The only thing I can think of that would gives PC players advantages over others are third party tools, which are not supported; and maybe UI set ups. With the latter, I know a big difference between the UIs of PC and PS4 players are the hotkeys and the crossbars. Because controller users have to use the crossbar, they have to add actions to hotbars and make them visible in order to monitor the cooldowns of any ability they have not set to the primary crossbar. IOW, PS4 players can be completely unaware of this and make themselves work harder than they actually need to, which leads to derps on the battlefield.

How do you put all that in the criteria though? Well, you don't. However, I don't think outright lying is the way either. The person doing the grouping simply has to say PC only, leaving his/her reasons to be their own. It's futile though because PS4 players will join anyway, because there really isn't a way for that person to know lol.

[Kaedan]

I would say the % is pretty comparable to the rate of PC players to PS4 players... As in both kinds stand equally in AoEs.

I disagree. It's generally much easier for PS4 users to get out of AoE because movement on a controller is much smoother and easier.

Not to mention, PS4 (or controller) users in general tend to have a tighter grasp of rotations and positioning.

That, and there are far more PC users than PS4 users, so from a pure statistics standpoint, if someone is getting hit by AoE, it's more than likely a PC user. ^_^

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

I disagree. It's generally much easier for PS4 users to get out of AoE because movement on a controller is much smoother and easier.

Not to mention, PS4 (or controller) users in general tend to have a tighter grasp of rotations and positioning.

That, and there are far more PC users than PS4 users, so from a pure statistics standpoint, if someone is getting hit by AoE, it's more than likely a PC user. ^_^

Can you show me statistical evidence on that? That is really interesting. Cite your source please.

[Kaedan]

Can you show me statistical evidence on that? That is really interesting. Cite your source please.

Of the fact that there are far more PC users than PS4 users? It's on the forums somewhere. They do an official census every now and then, and each time there's always been several times more PC players than PS4 players.

[Johaandr]

Im sorry to brag but im litterrary better than SOME so called pc master race player.
I mean us ps4 has no third party shit such ACT and we have to create tunnel visions in order to survive and do mechanics properly. Those who made that PF must be bad so dont mind them.

Sorry for this post... i lost a battle in tekken and i am salty