Pulling the bosses In dungeons as DPS a thing now?

[Leonus]

To be honest, is it really a problem unless the group dies? It really is self entitlement and a sense of superiority from tanks who did what you did. To be honest, I would have vote kicked you too. The only issue would have been if someone wasn't ready, but what gives or places the tank as the authority to decide if the group is ready or not? An experienced DS can also easily determine that, it's not some special tank insight.

[Awha]

Thats Tank entitlement of the finest.

Of Course its usually better to let the Tank pull to keep the pace.

But "You spank it, you tank it" was never a good approach. Tanking is the tanks job.

Imagine that with another role:
Healer suddenly doesn´t heal you anymore because you stood in an avoidable aoe?
"You let it hit, your Sh**"

Meele stops doing dps because the mob was turned and he didn´t get his positional?
"You turn it, you kill it"

Its always the Tanks that complain if they don´t get there "special Snowflake" treatment.

While off topic I did run into a healer like this and it was honestly a blast the rage fest was insane but honestly it was an enjoyable run.

[Doozer]

Actually nice to see people starting to kick tanks who think like that. Like already stated, self entitlement at its finest!

Oh, and DPS have an easy ride? Are you kidding? Tanking now is by far the easiest and most mind-numbing role of them all in a Dungeon. If anything, YOU should be thanking the DPS for burning things down quickly for you, while all you have to do is press one button for aggro and one button for CDs. SMH.

Hm.... what's that I taste? Oh yeah, how could I forget the taste of overwhelming salt.

It's not about difficulty, mate. It's about how DPS can't take more than like 3 hits but think they can pull groups and expect me to save them. It's like if I queued up as a PLD and said "uhm... I'm healing this dungeon now? Piss off healer?"

And honestly, if you're too sensitive to handle a tank like me, please by all means kick me. I won't get a penalty and can re-queue and get in way faster than you can. Do us all a favor if you can't handle it.

[Marc-Vigar]

Some people here seem to not understand what each role is suposed to do so I'll explain:

- TANK: COMUNICATION, lead the group (choosing the path, pulling, guidelines, countdowns and limit breaks.) All this while keeping aggro on all mobs, be considerate for positionals and AoE, and use cooldowns and crowd control to survive.

- HEALER: Again, COMUNICATION, if your tank is going a bit slow and you're just chilling, invite him to pull more. Keep everyone's HP as high as possible and without status ailments, manage your mana accordingly and use cooldowns coordinated with the tank for bigger pulls and faster dungeons runs. If you don't have anything to heal or damage taken is low, help with DPS.

- DPS: Do all the damage you can, use cooldowns properly and avoid putting extra stress on the other roles (this includes pulling yourself instead of the tank, standing in AoEs and not using your own defensive cooldowns)

[Awha]

I really think some people are overthinking this entire situation. Basic case of making a mountain out of a mole hill. I do not even think the OP even cares anymore.

[Gula]

A DPS pulled mobs for me in a dungeon and I intentionally ignored those mobs, let them die, the healer died, but lol TBN and finished the pack with the other DPS.

I was asked what happened, told them, they pulled that mob, not me. The DPS did not pull ahead after that.

With all the new skill changes I am not gonna pull wall to wall without knowing how to keep myself alive or the healer's comfort. Now, if a healer pulls, alright. It's a sign that they can handle it, and I'm cool with that. They're the one in charge of keeping my health from hitting 0 after all. Not the DPS. Tanking is the tank's job. If someone else wants to try, let em. But let them know they chose to be the tank in instances like that.

If they can't handle teamwork with strangers then they should queue with a 100% premade so they can bumble together.

Probably didn't want his timer or stacks or whatever it is Dragoons have to run out.

Honestly, who cares? You could have taken it off him in literal seconds, it wouldn't have really effected your run, and you'd have finished the dungeon, got your loot and forgotten all about it by now.

Instead you got kicked, had to start over, you wasted your own time and theirs, and the whole thing has evidently annoyed you enough to make this topic about it.

I keep seeing all this time time time posting. Wasting time? It's an mmo. You're supposed to go in with the mentality of "this is gonna take awhile." It's how these games work. They were not in a savage raid or EX just hitting 1%. It was a boss that takes like 5 minutes. Calmato.

[Kabooa]

I keep seeing all this time time time posting. Wasting time? It's an mmo. You're supposed to go in with the mentality of "this is gonna take awhile." It's how these games work. They were not in a savage raid or EX just hitting 1%. It was a boss that takes like 5 minutes. Calmato.

It'd take 4m 48s if you don't make the monk start from zero.

Get in there.

[Awha]

A DPS pulled mobs for me in a dungeon and I intentionally ignored those mobs, let them die, the healer died, but lol TBN and finished the pack with the other DPS.

I was asked what happened, told them, they pulled that mob, not me. The DPS did not pull ahead after that.

With all the new skill changes I am not gonna pull wall to wall without knowing how to keep myself alive or the healer's comfort. Now, if a healer pulls, alright. It's a sign that they can handle it, and I'm cool with that. They're the one in charge of keeping my health from hitting 0 after all. Not the DPS. Tanking is the tank's job. If someone else wants to try, let em. But let them know they chose to be the tank in instances like that.

If they can't handle teamwork with strangers then they should queue with a 100% premade so they can bumble together.



I keep seeing all this time time time posting. Wasting time? It's an mmo. You're supposed to go in with the mentality of "this is gonna take awhile." It's how these games work. They were not in a savage raid or EX just hitting 1%. It was a boss that takes like 5 minutes. Calmato.

You are right it is an MMO and that means playing with others which means working as a team. Clearly the group in question did not think turning off tank stance in spite was being a team player was being a team player, so they removed the tank.

[Gula]

You are right it is an MMO and that means playing with others which means working as a team. Clearly the group in question did not think turning off tank stance in spite was being a team player was being a team player, so they removed the tank.

Can't wait for Tank to get back to Need status so you're stuck waiting half an hour. Though, I'm going to pull elitist here and reason people likely put up with my preferences because I'm a female roe and we're so rare they can't help but to want to observe a bit longer.

[Lilyth]

Hm.... what's that I taste? Oh yeah, how could I forget the taste of overwhelming salt.

It's not about difficulty, mate. It's about how DPS can't take more than like 3 hits but think they can pull groups and expect me to save them. It's like if I queued up as a PLD and said "uhm... I'm healing this dungeon now? Piss off healer?"

And honestly, if you're too sensitive to handle a tank like me, please by all means kick me. I won't get a penalty and can re-queue and get in way faster than you can. Do us all a favor if you can't handle it.

You got it all wrong buddy. I wouldn't be salty about a problem that has never affected me in anyway before, now would I? It's more like satisfaction in seeing people are finally acting up accordingly upon meeting egocentrical players instead of just putting on with it.

And let's talk about about being sensitive, when it's the tank player that refuses to press one button to re-stabilish aggro and you know, do their job, just because a dps player pulled a mob before they could. Omg, you pulled, you're tanking because my ego can't handle it. Who is the overly sensitive player here again?

And no, kicking a bad tank would in very rare situations result in the kicked tank getting a faster clear, even more now that tank queues are not as fast anymore. Please, this is a dungeon, any DPS can easily pull mobs and be kept alive by healers. If anything, they will clear the place faster than the kicked tank and actually having a blast while doing it, probably even with a better tank too 'cause you know... people do have friends.
But if you wanna keep believing they are having the worst for kicking you, well... whatever floats your boat.

But you got one thing right though. I really can't handle any kind of stupid behaviour.