Differences between English and Japanese MSQ Dialogue (bit of a rant)

[Enla]

But the one self aware Amaroutian alludes to you being someone in particular as well. I'll have to rewatch it but I remember they say something that suggests that not only are you one with Ardbert, you are someone he recognizes and thinks is notable. I definitely got the idea the WoL was not only part of a shattered soul, but an important one.

crouching spoilers, hidden plot elements.

Ten characters of screenshots.

Yeah he knew us, and from these two lines I honestly can't see us being /him/. I'd have to see the translated Japanese, German, French dialogue since you tend to get a better image of the story when you combine all the translations, but based on this particular wording we're very much /not/ Hyth.

Also neat fact, the gender of your past incarnation changes based on your own in this cutscene. Which was a cool touch honestly.

[Alucard135]

But the one self aware Amaroutian alludes to you being someone in particular as well. I'll have to rewatch it but I remember they say something that suggests that not only are you one with Ardbert, you are someone he recognizes and thinks is notable. I definitely got the idea the WoL was not only part of a shattered soul, but an important one.

crouching spoilers, hidden plot elements.

Ten characters of screenshots.

Yeah he knew us, and from these two lines I honestly can't see us being /him/. I'd have to see the translated Japanese, German, French dialogue since you tend to get a better image of the story when you combine all the translations, but based on this particular wording we're very much /not/ Hyth.

Also neat fact, the gender of your past incarnation changes based on your own in this cutscene. Which was a cool touch honestly.

Very interesting.

Yeah it seems we're someone else. But a very important one it seems. The story just keeps getting better lol

[PharisHanasaki]

Except I do. And I played in English. You need to play the full MSQ in English, not just random bits which would obviosly noy make sense. 'She' or 'He' was also close to Emet-Selch, and probably the member of the council that left.

[Radacci]

I recall this time when some npc spoke like 1-2 sentances in japanese, but it was translated into 1 word! Like really?
I don't really understand japanese, just a few words here and there, but i noticed often the translations seem off/awkward/incomplete, as if something was lost in translation.

[Nestama]

Oooh, that scene! Okay! Given the few scenes that flash before the question is asked, it's safe to assume that Minfillia noticed the WoL was deep in thought. She also doesn't look "calm, direct, business level," but concerned/worried... or maybe it's curiosity?

Basically, to me it fits better that she would ask us what's on our minds over "are you alright?" Our character in the scene don't exactly look tired or unwell. Just sad (and deep in thought, as Minfillia noticed). The responses we give her there also match what she asks.

Now I'm curious what responses the WoL has on the JP client. Because if she asks if you're feeling unwell, the only two responses I can think the WoL would have are: "Nah I'm fine!" and "Maybe I could do with a lie down," but then that doesn't really match the scene at all and becomes completely irrelevant dialogue fluff between the WoL and Minfillia.

[Knahli]

Oooh, that scene! Okay! Given the few scenes that flash before the question is asked, it's safe to assume that Minfillia noticed the WoL was deep in thought. She also doesn't look "calm, direct, business level," but concerned/worried... or maybe it's curiosity?

Basically, to me it fits better that she would ask us what's on our minds over "are you alright?" Our character in the scene don't exactly look tired or unwell. Just sad (and deep in thought, as Minfillia noticed). The responses we give her there also match what she asks.

Now I'm curious what responses the WoL has on the JP client. Because if she asks if you're feeling unwell, the only two responses I can think the WoL would have are: "Nah I'm fine!" and "Maybe I could do with a lie down," but then that doesn't really match the scene at all and becomes completely irrelevant dialogue fluff between the WoL and Minfillia.

I don't mean to speak for Clover so she'd have to clarify herself if she comes back to see this, but I think by "look" she might have actually meant "sound" given the way the rest of her sentence reads. Maybe she said "look" because she is talking about how the text itself appears to read when compared against the audio and possibly Minfillia's body language.

In any case, my understanding of her argument here is that Minfillia's way of saying something reflects on her personality and even this admittedly subtle changes can mark quite a notable difference when it comes to both the perceived character development and our own interpretations of a character. So to use this example here, her comment about Minfillia's reply being "direct, calm and business level" likely means that the english text reflect's Minfillia's disposition in this situation toward being in a more relaxed and level-headed state and a character that is comfortable turning to the WoL, whom clearly appears troubled, and asking what's on their mind with a comparable stocisim to that of the older and more weathered Scions. On the other hand, the Japanese dialogue reflects her insecure and sheepish nature, more akin to a character that is both sincerely worried and perhaps a little afraid to talk - like she is still trying to find her place in the group as a character who currently feels troublesome and worthless.

I think if you settle on the fact that the 'basic message' still comes across just fine then you are only scratching the surface of the debate. Nuance is everything when it comes to storytelling and while you can argue that this sole example in itself amounts to very little - if anything - in the grand scheme of things, repeated instances of this can really alter the way a character comes across overall, at least in my opinion.

Though with all of that said, its a little frustrating to listen to myself argue for the consistency of Ryne's character of all people considering how dissatisfied I was with how she does a virtual 180 at a pivotal moment later on, but I digress.