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    Cythil's Avatar
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    Xiri Saffa
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 30

    Bard, Dragoon, or Ninja?

    Trying to decide which of these jobs to play. Which is the least static in it's rotation? Which has the "flasiest" abilites? Which do you think has the best job story?
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    Drayos's Avatar
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    Sethra Rage
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Aesthetically I think dragoon looks the coolest.

    The least static rotationally will be bard (it has RNG involved in its rotation)

    Ninja has the most complicated mechanics.
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    Nolagamer's Avatar
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    Nola Deus
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Dragoons are in a very nice spot now. Great dps and a good raid utility.
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    Drayos's Avatar
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    Sethra Rage
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nolagamer View Post
    Dragoons are in a very nice spot now. Great dps and a good raid utility.
    One of those will be nerfed though so I wouldn’t roll one based on that... I’m pretty sure the first balance patch is next week
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    Xephna Weaving
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    Tonberry
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drayos View Post
    One of those will be nerfed though so I wouldn’t roll one based on that... I’m pretty sure the first balance patch is next week
    And it will definitely be dps nerf. It's the easiest aspect to adjust and fine tune at this point of time.
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  6. #6
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drayos View Post
    One of those will be nerfed though so I wouldn’t roll one based on that... I’m pretty sure the first balance patch is next week
    Unlikely. Dragoon is currently below Monk in pDPS yet both offer comparable utility. Why would Dragoon be nerfed but not Monk? The latter no longer has any reason to be far ahead given Dragoon already lost 400 rDPS when piercing was removed.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    ninja ! , spells , melee combos , ninjutsu , the gameplay is madness tho
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    Eskuire's Avatar
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    Character
    Jersey Flow
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I played Bard for like half a decade, it's personal opinion, but I don't find it that fun in Shadowbringers, and moved over to Dragoon which I'm kinda salty about considering it was this fun in Stormblood and no one said anything. Loving the class right now personally. If you're looking for "No rotation is the same" kinda feeling Bard would be the class to play, as it has about 3-6 different rotations regarding pull types and enemies, but its heavily reliant on DoT Crit ticks, when you're not getting that, you're literally pressing one button for half the time. And its 80 skill is hot garbage, you'll either hit 8k-34k, but that 34 usually comes with using it at full charge maybe...once or twice per fight. (It'd be interesting to see how they operate based on later gear and materia melds, but I'm not personally waiting a year and a half for that)

    'Goon on the other hand has a few rotations and most of the moves are flashy and look cool and does some pretty gnarly damage. Ninja I got to 70, but that era of time was a complete blur to me and I remember next to nothing about that class, so there's that.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eskuire View Post
    If you're looking for "No rotation is the same" kinda feeling Bard would be the class to play, as it has about 3-6 different rotations regarding pull types and enemies, but its heavily reliant on DoT Crit ticks, when you're not getting that, you're literally pressing one button for half the time. And its 80 skill is hot garbage, you'll either hit 8k-34k, but that 34 usually comes with using it at full charge maybe...once or twice per fight. (It'd be interesting to see how they operate based on later gear and materia melds, but I'm not personally waiting a year and a half for that).
    u dont rely on dot crits anymore :P proc has a base chance of 35% afaik
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 07-11-2019 at 09:20 PM.

  10. #10
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    Eskuire's Avatar
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    Jersey Flow
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    u dont rely on dot crits anymore :P procshas a base chance of 35% afaik
    35% is still RNG, I'm rocking the 440 gear fully melded to crit wherever I could toss it in and I still find that 35% isn't as good as it's made out to be. The majority of Apex charges / Song stacks still come from those DoT crit that reset. iirc (been studying up on dragoon and slowly breaking my old bard habits) If Quick Noct procs Rain you do not receive an Apex charge, only the Dot Ticks / EA count towards it. It's mostly designed as a work around for Refulgent. Honestly I wouldn't have a problem with the 80 skill if it didn't blow through the entire guage. If they made it flat potency for 25 and allowed us to spend only 25 per shot I'd be all for it, but the damage drop off if it isn't at 100 is so massive that it feels more like a chore using it than anything else, and you're stuck waiting on it to fully charge most of the time unless tank is going wall to wall with pulls
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