Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
Yeah no I don't mind it, that's more a shot at "Everything must be damage" crowd. Besides we need a reliable way of popping Divine Veil in solo content.
You should realise by this point you do not gain anything from Divine Veil whatsoever, paladin is the only tank not to benefit from it's AoE mitigation, even when DV was first implemented in Heavensward paladin gained nothing from it.

As for the "Everything must be damage" remark, healer have all the tools they need for most situations and doubly so in 8 man content. As I have posted in this thread previously, you only have three scenarios where you really NEED to cast Clemency; progging new fights, healers are down, or solo content.
As of now it's not all bad using Clemency at the moment but as you level you will gain access to Holy spirit, Holy Circle, Confiteor and Requiescat, which if you mp is below 8k mp, you will not gain the buff or the subsequent insta-cast buff (which might have been the issue in a minor oversight as opposed to a bug Shogun posted in his thoughts). And with access to these new skills, you will ideally spend on dps rather than healing. Holy Circle and Confiteor feel a lot better to use than Clemency.

It is also worth noting in regards your remark, that in Extremes, Savage and Ultimate, tank damage is factored into the encounter towards the overall dps check before enrage. So if a tank does not carry his burden of damage if falls to the rest of the party members to make up the missing damage which is not fair on everyone else. This can influence attitudes of some tanks to push for more damage and in casual content sure people might think it's being try hard but really it's more tanks just pulling their weight. More to the point, if a tank does try to do more damage then all the more to them, it just means they want to play better and who is anyone to criticise someone for that.