Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
I personally avoid using clemency where possible, unless healer is really struggling with a big pull and I miss time a CD, and like ~15% hp and healer is spamming heals, or it's prog and healers are down, there is genuinely no other reason to use clemency and hp penalty on spirits within (stipulation does not belong on a tank), isn't really a reason.
Personally it feels disingenuous to the healers, who are there to heal and in harder content it can screw with their planned healing. Remember if you do die it's just a game go back to the start or get a raise, just let the healers to their thing and worry about doing dmg, longer you waste using clemency the more damage you take overall because you're not doing damage.
You're thinking about this too hard. Clemency is an incredible powerful tool, and when combined with req. the PLD becomes virtually invincible. To like, pride yourself on not using it is just putting yourself as a disadvantage as a PLD.

For me personally, unless I'm doing super high level content (ex/savage) or trying to meet strict DPS checks in other content, I use Clemency pretty regularly. I like staying near full health, it feels good, and allows me to play comfortably. And also, something you said really kinda bothered me: "Just let the healers do their thing and worry about doing dmg"....no....doing DPS for the sake of big numbers will always be secondary for a Tank. Tanks should first and foremost be worried about holding aggro and staying alive.