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  1. #1
    Player
    SinSong's Avatar
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    Nekara Nekota
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 57

    Summoner Changes

    New player / poster so forgive me if this in the wrong section.

    Have summoners only been balanced for endgame? before SB i was reasonably safe doing the MQ with summons keeping aggro off me... it now seems a common occurrence to spawn multiple enemies on a caster in a confined location, before you could use pets as tank / decoy etc. Seems to have degenerated to "dot everything and hope i can spam heal on myself long enough whilst pet and dots kill things". Summons seem more of an extra dot than any form of utility? or am i missing something here.

    Any info / feedback would be appreciated
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    ReiMakoto's Avatar
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Titan egi/Topaz Carbuncle can put a meaty shield on you at pretty regular intervals so you don't need to be spamming your heals for MSQ content at least, for the Summoner quests im not sure how the balance is on them now, but titan should be able to carry you through fine
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  3. #3
    Player
    SinSong's Avatar
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    Nekara Nekota
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    Louisoix
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    Summoner Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Titan egi/Topaz Carbuncle can put a meaty shield on you at pretty regular intervals so you don't need to be spamming your heals for MSQ content at least, for the Summoner quests im not sure how the balance is on them now, but titan should be able to carry you through fine
    I mixed up the quests, yes it was the summoners i found a bit... unfriendly. Ty for the shield mention though, i had actually already tried that earlier on a quest and whilst "shielded" lost 3/4 hp from one attack.. disregarded it as trash after (will now give it a further try)
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    Nyoraii's Avatar
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    Nyorai Nyo
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    I also noted this while leveling, SMN felt waaaaaay too weak against enemies, in fact I even died on some quests and that had never happened before.

    They messed SMN's leveling even more than just overall.
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  5. #5
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    zcrash970's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Quinton Lightblaze
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Always been a main SMN. I haven't used Tiran since 2.0 and yes it's fine with just Ifrit and Garuda in leveling.
    If you are dying in the open world, you are pulling too much, underlevel, or have low dps. I suggest getting a healing chocobo
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  6. #6
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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Character
    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    I really don't know what they were thinking. I mean they took Aetherflow, an ability you learned at level 6, and moved it up to level 45. Did they not even think what that would do to SCH in low leveling dungeons?

    Arcanist used to be a fantastic soloing class with topaz carbuncle and later with SMN's Titan-egi, and they just... dropped all that. My best advice is to level your company chocobo in a tank or healer role.
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    niwaar's Avatar
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    Kaelie Niie
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Arcanist used to be a fantastic soloing class with topaz carbuncle and later with SMN's Titan-egi, and they just... dropped all that. My best advice is to level your company chocobo in a tank or healer role.
    The problem with the Chocobo as a tank role is that as you get higher in level, definitely in the 60s+ you will out enmity him with your damage increases. Id suggest the healer if you are going to rely on your choco to keep you upright.

    The bigger problem here is that while solo we shouldn't be stuck using the "shield" pet. Titan never was a requirement during casual solo questing (until he was). Ifrit could tank long enough to make sure stuff was dead just as well. Titan's shield should be removed from Titan. Given to all pets, with an increase to at least 25%. Dot classes take longer to kill things than a glasscannon BLM (who has manaward on without being forced to use a subpar pet) and a mobile caster with a sword and a hell of a lot of burst potential (plus they can heal themselves after our albeit pathetic excuse for a heal was removed). Something needs to give. Fine even great in end game group content... lackluster everywhere else is not fun design.
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