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  1. #1
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    Martyr's Avatar
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    Kenjiro Wolfsbane
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    Trust Dungeons as a Healer are the worst

    You literally gave us a tank that's perfectly capable of healing himself, without any specific cooldown as far as I can tell. I've done each of the trust Dungeons once for story purposes and it's been a slog everytime 'cause I'm just hitting my one DPS button ad infinitum for 30 minutes.

    Normal DF has been fine for me. It doesn't feel as good to heal as it was at the end of SB, but I'm still having fun, but man they didn't think about how brutally boring trust Dungeons would be for healers. Thank God for healer insta-queues right now.
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    Kobalos's Avatar
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    Narukai Nephilim
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    Doddamnit Thrancred stop being an amazing glorious tank!
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

    ― Oscar Wilde

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    Halivel's Avatar
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martyr View Post
    Thank God for healer insta-queues right now.
    When healers didn't have them, though? Even with Tank being in Need most of the time, I hardly remember any case when I waited for dungeon longer than 30 seconds as healer (if it's not Alliance roulette).

    As for Trust... didn't check it as healer yet, so can't say. What I can say though is that Alphinaud and Urainger heal me better than 90% of non-AI healers.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    It's the same for DPS. You put in so much effort, and the runs feel so slow...I've found they're really only fast as tanks, since I don't think SE took into account tank DPS.
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Goblin
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    Healer is the worst because it's so SLOW. You contribute as much DPS as you can, but it still doesn't make up for the fact that both the AI DPS are terrible :/
    It's better if you go as DPS, not tried as tank yet.
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    Dasya Zhwan
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's the same for DPS. You put in so much effort, and the runs feel so slow...I've found they're really only fast as tanks, since I don't think SE took into account tank DPS.
    It's slow because the AI doesn't AoE. All their damage is single target, and even then it is still on the low end (other than possibly Mini-filia).
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    Player
    Martyr's Avatar
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    Kenjiro Wolfsbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    When healers didn't have them, though? Even with Tank being in Need most of the time, I hardly remember any case when I waited for dungeon longer than 30 seconds as healer (if it's not Alliance roulette).
    True. If it doesn't instapop, I usually check to make sure I actually queued up, then check the time and go "Oh, it's 3 in the morning, that makes sense."

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's the same for DPS. You put in so much effort, and the runs feel so slow...I've found they're really only fast as tanks, since I don't think SE took into account tank DPS.
    I'd assumed it would be best on DPS, simply 'cause you could run ahead to pull another pack to the AI tank, then actually AoE them, since the AI dps don't do it themselves. Kind of sucks if it's just bad for everyone, especially since I'd planned on trust Dungeons being my goto DPS leveling method once the tank/dps queues got back to normal.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martyr View Post
    I'd assumed it would be best on DPS, simply 'cause you could run ahead to pull another pack to the AI tank, then actually AoE them, since the AI dps don't do it themselves. Kind of sucks if it's just bad for everyone, especially since I'd planned on trust Dungeons being my goto DPS leveling method once the tank/dps queues got back to normal.
    The Trusts don't AoE, so heavy pulls are a bit worse to do.
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  10. #9
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Martyr View Post
    You literally gave us a tank that's perfectly capable of healing himself, without any specific cooldown as far as I can tell. I've done each of the trust Dungeons once for story purposes and it's been a slog everytime 'cause I'm just hitting my one DPS button ad infinitum for 30 minutes.

    Normal DF has been fine for me. It doesn't feel as good to heal as it was at the end of SB, but I'm still having fun, but man they didn't think about how brutally boring trust Dungeons would be for healers. Thank God for healer insta-queues right now.
    in the live letter they literally said Trusts would be slower than regulars.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Very good.
    Kill that mode with fire! It should be for first time runners, not to spam them.
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