5.0 AST is a failure

**Allegor** · 07-21-2019 10:27 AM

I finally decided to login with my alt and play (lv 55 ish) AST a bit so here's my two cents:

I love that cards no longer have a timer, once it's drawn it stays there, and I also like Draw and Play are separate buttons so given the proper timing I can buff 2 people at once.

That said...I don't like Divination at all. The cooldown is too long, the range is trash, and the duration is a joke. I could also add that the effect is underwhelming, but I know it's meant to stack with the other buffs at end level so I'm not opening that can of worms.
The slot machine mini game may seem an interesting addition to complexity on paper but in practice it's....bad. I get 3 seals way faster than Divination is done recharging, so basically for ~2 minutes I'm converting every single card into a Lord/Lady not to lose the seals. Sure, those cards are better anyways but it feels clunky to say the least.
The melee/ranged split isn't fun if DF decides most/all DPS are melee/ranged, so yay for giving 'incomplete' buffs!
I could also add that it's lame that now literally all cards are Balance, but that dead chocobo has been beaten to dust already, so all I'll say is if they change AST because people were only fishing for Balance, I say NOW I feel like I'm fishing [for seals].

For those people that like the new AST, good for you, but it's not enjoyable for me anymore, so I'm dumping the soul stone on my retainer until further notice.

Originally Posted by BahamutxD

They could remove "Play" and let Draw recharge once while holding the current card indefinitely. Same result, more hotbar space, less button presses.

Point taken, specially since Sleeve Draw is essentially that (giving Draw "charges" by resetting the cd). My guess is they couldn't change the actual ability, so they just created 2 new ones to synergize with it /shrug

**BahamutxD** · 07-21-2019 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Allegor

I love that cards no longer have a timer, once it's drawn it stays there, and I also like Draw and Play are separate buttons so given the proper timing I can buff 2 people at once.

They could remove "Play" and let Draw recharge once while holding the current card indefinitely. Same result, more hotbar space, less button presses.

**TankHunter678** · 07-21-2019 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by BahamutxD

They could remove "Play" and let Draw recharge once while holding the current card indefinitely. Same result, more hotbar space, less button presses.

And a hell of a lot smoother to utilize.

**Seraphor** · 07-22-2019 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by BahamutxD

They could remove "Play" and let Draw recharge once while holding the current card indefinitely. Same result, more hotbar space, less button presses.

What happens when Draw has fully recharged but you still hold the last card?
Does pressing that button use the card, or draw a new one to overwrite?
What if I would like either option depending on the circumstances?

**BahamutxD** · 07-22-2019 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphor

What happens when Draw has fully recharged but you still hold the last card?
Does pressing that button use the card, or draw a new one to overwrite?
What if I would like either option depending on the circumstances?

You use the card.

Theres still undraw for that.

**Seraphor** · 07-22-2019 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by BahamutxD

You use the card.

Theres still undraw for that.

So we'd all need to put Undraw back on our hotbars? (it's currently completely useless)
So... you're not freeing up any skill slots.

**BahamutxD** · 07-22-2019 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphor

What happens when Draw has fully recharged but you still hold the last card?
Does pressing that button use the card, or draw a new one to overwrite?
What if I would like either option depending on the circumstances?

Originally Posted by Seraphor

So we'd all need to put Undraw back on our hotbars? (it's currently completely useless)
So... you're not freeing up any skill slots.

You are not supposed to have either option. If you dont like it you have either Redraw or Undraw.

Play is a redundant skill that servers no purpose after the new recharging skills mechanic.

Following that same logic what would happen if I still dont want the card I got after 3 redraws? - No need to answer, I just use it. Even 3% damage is better than none.

**Azeriel** · 07-22-2019 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphor

So we'd all need to put Undraw back on our hotbars? (it's currently completely useless)
So... you're not freeing up any skill slots.

Undraw is still needed regardless of which Card system you're using, it's an essential tool in our kit due to the nature of the system. Adding Play as a separate skill made absolutely no sense just like every other changes they made to the this bloody class.

**Seraphor** · 07-23-2019 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Azeriel

Undraw is still needed regardless of which Card system you're using, it's an essential tool in our kit due to the nature of the system. Adding Play as a separate skill made absolutely no sense just like every other changes they made to the this bloody class.

There's no use to Undraw. At all.

Minor Arcana makes an unwanted card useful.
Before Minor Arcana, you'll just wait for Draw/Redraw to cooldown (you'll have to anyway) then overwrite your undesired card with a new one.

**Yuki_Murasaki** · 07-22-2019 08:47 PM

If I'm guessing correctly, you're thinking that it's like 4.x AST whereby Draw & Play is one button? Well it's a separate button now. So if you're holding a card, Play would use it. Draw will overwrite it.

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