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    Thank god, AST is fixed.
    See ya'll in a year after they've reworked the rework, fixed the reworked rework, and nerf the fixed reworked rework.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHeal View Post

    Thank god, AST is fixed.
    See ya'll in a year after they've reworked the rework, fixed the reworked rework, and nerf the fixed reworked rework.
    First mini-patches after an expansion never had significant changes. You will see most changes in the following one once the jobs have been used in raid content.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    ...You will see most changes in the following one once the jobs have been used in raid content.
    I may be wrong, but will vent here my feelings as an AST...

    I feel like to see the "AST" tag right now in raid equals to a "switch to WHM or leave", more or less polite wording aside.

    And I am counting the ragequits/ragedc when people see AST in their duty.

    Collective is now good only for nice pics with friends.

    And, last but not least, I feel I have to make double the work only to keep on par with any whm that barely knows how to use a couple heals.

    That's how I feel today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHeal View Post

    Thank god, AST is fixed.
    See ya'll in a year after they've reworked the rework, fixed the reworked rework, and nerf the fixed reworked rework.
    What were you expecting? This patch is mostly about releasing the raid as plenty are chomping at the bit to get in there. They are going to want to compile the raid data before screwing around with potencies, and full blown overhauls like what some are requesting be done to AST card system won't happen at all this expansion. The MP reductions to both Gravity and Art of War are actually quite welcome. Even with the note there saying that more changes are coming in 5.05, I would keep expectations at a very reasonable level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHeal View Post

    Thank god, AST is fixed.
    See ya'll in a year after they've reworked the rework, fixed the reworked rework, and nerf the fixed reworked rework.

    * The changes to job actions in 5.01 only included adjustments to parameters such as potency and effect duration. However, further changes are planned for Patch 5.05.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHeal View Post

    Thank god, AST is fixed.
    See ya'll in a year after they've reworked the rework, fixed the reworked rework, and nerf the fixed reworked rework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocco View Post
    ...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
    I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

    "Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
    "It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
    "It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
    "Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
    "Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

    I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
    I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHeal View Post
    ...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
    I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

    "Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
    "It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
    "It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
    "Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
    "Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

    I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
    I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out
    Laterz! o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeHeal View Post
    ...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
    I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

    "Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
    "It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
    "It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
    "Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
    "Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

    I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
    I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out
    Oh cut it out drama queen. You can't throw a fit when they basically announce more changes are coming. Something tells me nothing sooner than changes the day after release would've made you happy.

    No one's saying you need to wait for patch notes.

    No one's saying you need to try it.

    No one's saying you need to get to level 80.

    Why? Because everyone knows there are problems.

    But you're acting like a crazy Walmart Customer who needs to be taken care of now, and that's just not how the world works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocco View Post
    Oh cut it out drama queen. You can't throw a fit when they basically announce more changes are coming. Something tells me nothing sooner than changes the day after release would've made you happy.

    No one's saying you need to wait for patch notes.

    No one's saying you need to try it.

    No one's saying you need to get to level 80.

    Why? Because everyone knows there are problems.

    But you're acting like a crazy Walmart Customer who needs to be taken care of now, and that's just not how the world works.
    i think his point is, astro could use potency and cool down changes.

    while that is true, my take is these changes were not even a potency/cost whatever pass, just a couple tiny things they were willing to put in now. That said, my expectations are not very high
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