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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    So how come The Great Hunt can't be unsynced?

    As a Monster Hunter fan I've wanted the Rathalos mount since I saw it was in the game, but only recently felt confident enough to actually attempt the EX fight. The only problem is I have pretty bad anxiety, and doing PF groups stresses me out a lot because I don't know the people. I did it about a month ago with a few friends on the same data center and we managed to complete it twice in like 20 attempts, but that's obviously not very fun. I used PF the other day to get a group together and got 3 clears in 3 attempts, but I was so stressed the entire time because at least one person said they'd just leave if we wiped even once. And duty finder isn't an option, I tried that, and people went in without even knowing what to do.

    I figured when ShB came it could be done unsynced and my (less skilled) friends would have an easier time doing it with me, but it's pretty disheartening to see it's still the same as it was. The idea of doing it 50 times just to get enough scales to buy it outright exhausts me just to think about it.

    I like how the fight is because it's very much like MH compared to the rest of the content in this game, so it makes it a really neat crossover. But even in MH you can do things with 4 people or you can do them solo. The multiplayer experience in MH is also very much like in this fight, where everyone else dies and I fail the fight despite never dying at all.

    Are they really never going to let those ones be done unsynced?
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    Going to be honest, I feel like you shouldn't be able to do any content unsynced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Going to be honest, I feel like you shouldn't be able to do any content unsynced.
    And *I* feel like you should be able to do *all* content unsynced, Alliance raids included. Give more options, not less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
    And *I* feel like you should be able to do *all* content unsynced, Alliance raids included. Give more options, not less.
    You can unsync alliance raids. Just need 6 people, 3 parties of 2. Of course, some raids can't be completed without enough people for mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You can unsync alliance raids. Just need 6 people, 3 parties of 2. Of course, some raids can't be completed without enough people for mechanics.
    You just need 3 to enter, but yeah, certain mechanics may require more to actually complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
    And *I* feel like you should be able to do *all* content unsynced, Alliance raids included. Give more options, not less.
    If you want to do content & be rewarded for said content, learn the content.
    I don't see how it's fun going into content where the hardest thing that needs to be done is get the group together in the partyfinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    If you want to do content & be rewarded for said content, learn the content.
    I don't see how it's fun going into content where the hardest thing that needs to be done is get the group together in the partyfinder.
    That's only a small part of why all content should be able to be unsynced. The other part of it is the *challenge*. Yeah, there's a lot of things that trying to do unsynced is just a faceroll because you outgear it so much, but some things are actually harder *not* because of the damage numbers or whatever, but because of the much lower party size. My friend and I enjoy two-manning content, just trying to push the hardest things we can, and see how far we can go. We do this in many games. There are some things we'll likely never be able to 2 man purely because of how mechanics go, but that doesn't mean we don't like giving it a good try regardless, see if there's any way we can perhaps cheese the mechanic, or maybe somehow skip it entirely.

    To this effect, I even think *current* content should be able to be unsynced purely because of that reason: The fun of the challenge, push as hard and as far as you can go.

    THIS is why I say more options, not less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
    That's only a small part of why all content should be able to be unsynced. The other part of it is the *challenge*. Yeah, there's a lot of things that trying to do unsynced is just a faceroll because you outgear it so much, but some things are actually harder *not* because of the damage numbers or whatever, but because of the much lower party size. My friend and I enjoy two-manning content, just trying to push the hardest things we can, and see how far we can go. We do this in many games. There are some things we'll likely never be able to 2 man purely because of how mechanics go, but that doesn't mean we don't like giving it a good try regardless, see if there's any way we can perhaps cheese the mechanic, or maybe somehow skip it entirely.

    To this effect, I even think *current* content should be able to be unsynced purely because of that reason: The fun of the challenge, push as hard and as far as you can go.

    THIS is why I say more options, not less.
    I would like to offer a middle ground then, as you do raise a solid point.
    Unsynced runs with less people can be a thing, which I haven't thought of, really.

    Unsynced runs shouldn't offer rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezzlocks View Post
    And *I* feel like you should be able to do *all* content unsynced, Alliance raids included. Give more options, not less.
    I feel that you should be able to play all content unsynced, but that rewards should reflect this.

    So if the Great Hunt were to be unsynced... no mount reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I feel that you should be able to play all content unsynced, but that rewards should reflect this.

    So if the Great Hunt were to be unsynced... no mount reward.
    An alternative would be the way WoW handles mounts, too. If you clear the Mythic raid while it's relevant, 100% drop rate (doesn't necessarily need to be 100% in FF14 of course, just keep drop rates as current). The moment it's no longer relevant, ie, doing old content unsynced, the drop rate plummets to an abyssmal 0.1% drop rate. You want the mount? Put in the work, one way or the other.
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