Does FF16 use FF14’s Graphics Engine? Because I’m not a fan of the way it looks..

[TrenDeca]

For a next gen exclusive title (and PC haha) I have to admit I am not impressed with the visuals. FF7 Remake and FF15 looks so much more better in my opinion. I just wondered why they did this, considering Square Enix is HUGE on graphics for single player games.

Then I saw that Yoshida has a major involvement with the game. Then I was like “oh....ok that explains the graphics. he’s made it clear he’s not a fan of pretty graphics.” Not hating, I just personally don’t agree with it. Although I’m sure the story will be amazing. I really like the combat too! It looks like a mixture of devil may cry 5 and FF15!

Question is, does anyone know if FF16 uses Luminous Engine 2.0? (Same one ff14 uses) FF16 looks like FF14 single player mode basically.

[remiff]

For a next gen exclusive title (and PC haha) I have to admit I am not impressed with the visuals. FF7 Remake and FF15 looks so much more better in my opinion. I just wondered why they did this, considering Square Enix is HUGE on graphics for single player games.

Then I saw that Yoshida has a major involvement with the game. Then I was like “oh....ok that explains the graphics. he’s made it clear he’s not a fan of pretty graphics.” Not hating, I just personally don’t agree with it. Although I’m sure the story will be amazing. I really like the combat too! It looks like a mixture of devil may cry 5 and FF15!

Question is, does anyone know if FF16 uses Luminous Engine 2.0? (Same one ff14 uses) FF16 looks like FF14 single player mode basically.

we don't know yet, but some people say the game runs on a supercharged version of the ff14 engine, others say the ff13 crystal tools engine .

[Jin-]

we don't know yet, but some people say the game runs on a supercharged version of the ff14 engine, others say the ff13 crystal tools engine .

Bad news no matter what lol. Maybe Unity next time

[Dalmacus]

Bad news no matter what lol. Maybe Unity next time

As someone who has dealt with unity before. Unity is horrible and that is even an understatement.

[Mimilu]

Really? :-o
I thought XVI looked closer to XV to me, at least in terms of rendering and texturing.
As for the engine, they haven't listed it yet but the last two big games SE have done, Kingdom Heart 3 and the VII Remake, were both done in Unreal 4, so I would image they might stick with that, now that they're familiar with it.

[BristolRuss]

For a next gen exclusive title (and PC haha) I have to admit I am not impressed with the visuals. FF7 Remake and FF15 looks so much more better in my opinion. I just wondered why they did this, considering Square Enix is HUGE on graphics for single player games.

Then I saw that Yoshida has a major involvement with the game. Then I was like “oh....ok that explains the graphics. he’s made it clear he’s not a fan of pretty graphics.” Not hating, I just personally don’t agree with it. Although I’m sure the story will be amazing. I really like the combat too! It looks like a mixture of devil may cry 5 and FF15!

Question is, does anyone know if FF16 uses Luminous Engine 2.0? (Same one ff14 uses) FF16 looks like FF14 single player mode basically.

The faces looked very similar to 15 to me, but the environments, particles effects, textures etc were all far superior so I would guess it's using an updated Luminous Engine. FF7R used Unreal Engine 4, and while it looked good overall there were definitely some texture streaming issues present.

[dangadget]

The texture streaming issues in FF7R are almost certainly due to hardware limitations rather than a problem with UE4 itself, and what was shown of FF16 looked like it used UE4 to me

[Jin-]

The texture streaming issues in FF7R are almost certainly due to hardware limitations rather than a problem with UE4 itself, and what was shown of FF16 looked like it used UE4 to me

Unreal Engine games have always had texture updating issues. No matter if it's old or latest version

[Ayuhra]

The texture streaming issues in FF7R are almost certainly due to hardware limitations rather than a problem with UE4 itself, and what was shown of FF16 looked like it used UE4 to me

Eeeh... Unreal has had texture popping issues since forever so I'd be willing to pin pop in on that.

Anyway as for the visuals of FF16 it looked fine to me? Personally, though, I'm willing to trade extreme graphics for more content.

[Shurrikhan]

Eeeh... Unreal has had texture popping issues since forever so I'd be willing to pin pop in on that.

Anyway as for the visuals of FF16 it looked fine to me? Personally, though, I'm willing to trade extreme graphics for more content.

There's a fair difference between mega resolutions and the gestalts we call "graphics" -- e.g. as a sum of particle drawing systems, how motion blur is handled, antistrophic filtering, ambient occlusion, and so forth, that gives a game it's distinct "style" -- though.

It doesn't take some huge number of polygons or great texture resolutions for a game to click for me, but at the same time much of the parts of a game's "graphics" are inseparable from artistic direction for me, and that will absolutely make or break my investment in a game.

At present, XVI looks mostly like XV to me, but less polished (unsurprising for now, given that it's alpha footage... though even when 15 was XIII-Versus and ran on Crystal Tools, I felt its visual direction clicked). As I'm already not particularly a fan of how Luminous looks in XV, or the limitations of the engine as far as I can guess from XIV, and the lack of polish hits where it matters most to me, the game isn't clicking for me now. But, hey, it's alpha. It's likely been in production for less time than 15 was even just between secrecy and its tentative future as XIII-Versus, still several iterations of development hell before the XV we know today.