Ifrit/Moogle King and Jobs

[prymortal]

I've found monks quite useless generaly it's got lancer & archer that you can equip from but it needs conj/gla for stoneskin & sentinal.
But in some areas like moogles just using monk/pug works well as ong as its 1 on 1 or with a whm/conj near by

[Molly_Millions]

I've got a question for all of you that have tried Ifrit post patch. Is WAR actually useful now in the Ifrit fight as DD? Or has anyone even tried it?

[Belial]

I've got a question for all of you that have tried Ifrit post patch. Is WAR actually useful now in the Ifrit fight as DD? Or has anyone even tried it?

MRD was always decent DD and a better tank for Ifrit, I imagine it would be even more effective now with Mighty Strikes & Steel Cyclone to keep Rampage up. It also appears to have much better enmity generation than PLD.

[Molly_Millions]

MRD was always decent DD and a better tank for Ifrit, I imagine it would be even more effective now with Mighty Strikes & Steel Cyclone to keep Rampage up. It also appears to have much better enmity generation than PLD.

Is that still true given that WAR takes far more damage than PLD?

[TirionCrey]

Is that still true given that WAR takes far more damage than PLD?

How could WAR/MRD get far more dmg then a PLD, when def is "completely" ignored by Ifrit? That alone makes WAR a "better" tank, just cause he has a way higher HP Pool, only considering Ifrit!

[Molly_Millions]

How could WAR/MRD get far more dmg then a PLD, when def is "completely" ignored by Ifrit? That alone makes WAR a "better" tank, just cause he has a way higher HP Pool, only considering Ifrit!

Again, I haven't fought Ifrit since the patch, and WAR does take more damage than PLD vs regular mobs. I honestly didn't know about Ifrit ignoring DEF. Has somebody done some thorough testing around that? If so, do you know where I can take a peek at the results and test methodology?

[syntaxlies]

How could WAR/MRD get far more dmg then a PLD, when def is "completely" ignored by Ifrit? That alone makes WAR a "better" tank, just cause he has a way higher HP Pool, only considering Ifrit!

I havnt tanked ifrit on war or pld but the stats are relatively the same as glad and mrd. that being said I tank ifrit on both classes and mrd always takes more damage. I prefer to tank on mrd though cause I can also to more damage making the kill faster.

EDIT: just wanted to add that mrd has more hp so its expected that their def is lower therefore causing them to take more damage, when you put it into a % value they would prob equate to close to the same.

[Belial]

Is that still true given that WAR takes far more damage than PLD?

WAR has a much deeper HP pool than PLD. A lot (or all?) Ifrit's attacks are based on magic as opposed to physical (apart from swipe that I remember). And the damage they take is mitigated in different ways than PLD. Mighty Strikes + Rampage = HP generation per hit for 10 seconds, couple that with a combo and you can keep yourself afloat for a bit. They also have Vengeance which redirects a portion of damage back to it's source, and other mitigating abilites like Featherfoot & Foresight.

[Chardrizard]

I've got a question for all of you that have tried Ifrit post patch. Is WAR actually useful now in the Ifrit fight as DD? Or has anyone even tried it?

any DD is useful as long as they are not half retarded and keep dying, but they will still parse lower than THM/BLM.

[Molly_Millions]

any DD is useful as long as they are not half retarded and keep dying, but they will still parse lower than THM/BLM.

Last i tried using MRD vs ifrit for DD, MRD was way down on the list as far as DPS is concerned. Like last out of all DDs, in fact.