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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I'd trust FFLogs better then the parses of random players because the EX trials are lenient enough to allow for very subpar DPS to still get a clear.

    Optimally, NIN was mentioned as the only DPS that should be pulling around 9K. Everything else (Save for DNC which is significantly lower still) should be pulling around 2-3K more then that.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 07-16-2019 at 04:57 PM.

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    TimeraiderGaranyi's Avatar
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    Timeraider Garanyi
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    Lich
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'd trust FFLogs better then the parses of random players because the EX trials are lenient enough to allow for very subpar DPS to still get a clear.

    Optimally, NIN was mentioned as the only DPS that should be pulling around 9K. Everything else (Save for DNC which is significantly lower still) should be pulling around 2-3K more then that.
    Ok, well.. for the sake of fflogs let us then check the actual ffdata.
    First we simply scroll down. Due to massive RNG and bullshit tactics affecting the data.. its always bad to use the top 3.
    So... titania and innocence.. BLM and Samurai both at the bottom of the first page (aka, #100). Ow look.. 200-500 dps difference only
    100 to far away from the top?
    Fine.. #50 then.. ow, look.. 600 dps only.

    As much as i agree that Samurai and BLM should be about equal dps and if they buffed it just slightly more to get it 100% exact... OP talking about how other dps is doing so much better than Samurai by taking some rng freak dps logs, Cant say i fully agree with his point like that.

    If he had ANY other points except for the maximal limit of dps as seen atm on fflogs, i would have fully agreed and not argued.
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    Yep ...... This surely would be a good place to place a famous quote...
    But lets not.


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    Hacchan's Avatar
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    Fei Soulstar
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TimeraiderGaranyi View Post
    Ah, this explains all those 14k dps Sams i see at Titania and Innocence extreme then while the BLMs and most other dps (except for dragoon) tend to pull closer to 8k-9k...

    Yes... i am doubting the validity of fflogs atm. Its to early and not enough different logs yet.
    FFLOGS are currently bloated and somewhat unreliable since most of them are padded to hell with DNC + AST Card on 1 player and the occasional DRG, so take them with a grain of salt. So if you see a SAM in the 14k at the end of the fight they probably got boosted like hell. As for BLM, they can easily pull into the 11k without being focused by buff so they probably were pretty bad (except maybe for innocence since they have to move a lot more compared to titania)

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeraiderGaranyi View Post
    Ok, well.. for the sake of fflogs let us then check the actual ffdata.
    First we simply scroll down. Due to massive RNG and bullshit tactics affecting the data.. its always bad to use the top 3.
    So... titania and innocence.. BLM and Samurai both at the bottom of the first page (aka, #100). Ow look.. 200-500 dps difference only
    100 to far away from the top?
    Fine.. #50 then.. ow, look.. 600 dps only.

    As much as i agree that Samurai and BLM should be about equal dps and if they buffed it just slightly more to get it 100% exact... OP talking about how other dps is doing so much better than Samurai by taking some rng freak dps logs, Cant say i fully agree with his point like that.

    If he had ANY other points except for the maximal limit of dps as seen atm on fflogs, i would have fully agreed and not argued.
    The thing is you can't really count on the current 'stat' ranking since they can vary drastically but they give an average idea of how the classes handles atm . The problem here is that OP took those stats WAY too early to be of any value since most players aren't up to the content, geared or used to the new openers and slight changes. But it doesn't change the fact that, at the moment, SAM is under tuned with how close some of the other dps are.
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    Last edited by Hacchan; 07-17-2019 at 08:12 AM.