If you thought the healer DPS debate would change with the change...

[Misutoraru]

To everybody that does not like healers DPS’ing simple fix don’t group with us. Find some healers that only heal put them on your friends list and always invite them. Bam that easy. Healers have always had the option to dps in ffxiv even if it might be dull that’s our option. As long as the game allows us we will play the class the way it’s enjoyable for us.

I am afraid that’s not the issue here
It is more the expectation of the “must” from certain players

I personally would welcome healer dropping some dps skill, but equally I don’t mind if the healer is not casting dps spell as long as everyone is alive. There are many reasons for a healer choose not to dps, I play caution sometime when running DF in alliance raid.
If it is preform pf or static I could understand the expectation but, in DF I would just let the healer decide if he/she comfortable with dps

[Saefinn]

I think people misunderstood the changes to healers. Their goal wasn't to make healers dps less; it was to make everyone's (healers included) dps rotations simpler. That's all.

If I recall the developers said something along the lines of them wanting healers to DPS less and focus more on healing.

[Misutoraru]

If I recall the developers said something along the lines of them wanting healers to DPS less and focus more on healing.

Well I am feeling powerless in term of healing power with my AST, but it could simply my ilv is not crazy overgear like the end of SB

[Ringabell]

I've not looked at numbers, but is buffing SCH damage really a good idea? I feel like SCH having lower damage makes sense with the sheer number of oGCD skills we have to heal. Does WHM get that much more to make it work better? (I may not even level WHM this time around. I dunno if it's how used to SCH I am, but WHM just feels so wrong to me.)

"I feel like SCH having lower damage makes sense with the sheer number of oGCD skills we have to heal."

The value of off GCD heals is that they allow you to deal damage without spending a GCD on healing. What good are those off GCD heals if we're STILL being out-damaged SIGNIFICANTLY by WHM?

[Saefinn]

Well I am feeling powerless in term of healing power with my AST, but it could simply my ilv is not crazy overgear like the end of SB

As I understand it this is the position with AST, but SCH and Whm are reporting they are healing really well, whilst AST are behind in this respect. Which is one reason I've started levelling AST.

[Misutoraru]

"I feel like SCH having lower damage makes sense with the sheer number of oGCD skills we have to heal."

The value of off GCD heals is that they allow you to deal damage without spending a GCD on healing. What good are those off GCD heals if we're STILL being out-damaged SIGNIFICANTLY by WHM?

Sometime I just wonder what if the oGCD heal in my AST was originally plan for emergency healing, only because unparalleled gear progression and over buffing of healing potency.
It might turn out to be fun if dmg receive by tank tune up so high we have to finally go back to cast GCD heal just like back in 2.0 when Titan can stamp any low HP to death

[Peach64]

If you don't want to dps as a healer, then don't do it. Nobody should tell you how to play your class/job. They can give suggestions, but at the end of the day it's up to you how to play the game and have fun. Yoshi-p has also said in the past that healers aren't expected to dps in this game. This is something that grew out of the player-base mostly, since healers actually do decent damage in this game. To be honest, I do dps in dungeons, but this is not because X or Y person demands it (such a person would be a REALLY rude person), but really I want to see the mobs/boss die a bit quicker and dungeon/raid cleared a bit faster so I can go on to the next one.

[Hezzlocks]

Well I am feeling powerless in term of healing power with my AST, but it could simply my ilv is not crazy overgear like the end of SB

From my understanding AST is quite plainly not in a good spot right now. I expect they'll get a bit of an overhaul in the coming balance patches, much like what SCH did back in SB.

I am afraid that’s not the issue here
It is more the expectation of the “must” from certain players

I personally would welcome healer dropping some dps skill, but equally I don’t mind if the healer is not casting dps spell as long as everyone is alive. There are many reasons for a healer choose not to dps, I play caution sometime when running DF in alliance raid.
If it is preform pf or static I could understand the expectation but, in DF I would just let the healer decide if he/she comfortable with dps

Pretty much exactly this. A healer's primary job is to *heal*. That should not be surprising, not in the slightest. Healing should take top priority at all times. That isn't to say, however, that a healer should never DPS. If there isn't much healing needed, and you have plenty of MP to spare, *absolutely* do some DPS. I would welcome it.

That's the difference between a good healer and a great healer. A good healer will keep everyone alive. A great healer will keep everyone alive AND find the spare time and MP to throw a couple of DPS spells in every now and then.

[Misutoraru]

From my understanding AST is quite plainly not in a good spot right now. I expect they'll get a bit of an overhaul in the coming balance patches, much like what SCH did back in SB.



Pretty much exactly this. A healer's primary job is to *heal*. That should not be surprising, not in the slightest. Healing should take top priority at all times. That isn't to say, however, that a healer should never DPS. If there isn't much healing needed, and you have plenty of MP to spare, *absolutely* do some DPS. I would welcome it.

That's the difference between a good healer and a great healer. A good healer will keep everyone alive. A great healer will keep everyone alive AND find the spare time and MP to throw a couple of DPS spells in every now and then.

This is the spirit we all need
Well I guess I am in between good and great, I do dps but I am very cautious to see if all my teammate are not squish and know the mechanic. Just don’t want to take the guilt of letting someone die lol

[Zenji]

How is it people are going back and fourth on this subject. If you are ONLY healing that means you are idleing which is not cool. You don't have to straight up DPS but throw something out for crying out loud. Never just stand there and do nothing.