This is why people shouldnt make duplicate threads. The other one is far better discussion about lv 50 content and how IB is now weaker than 3rd step combos which is a little strange. This one is talking about sjws..../facepalm.
This is why people shouldnt make duplicate threads. The other one is far better discussion about lv 50 content and how IB is now weaker than 3rd step combos which is a little strange. This one is talking about sjws..../facepalm.
The tank DPS differential is absolutely minimal. But of course, SE will cave to the loudest section of tank players because they've babied Warriors since 2.1.
Because Warrior is fine. Get over it. FFXIV has been about Warrior since it was initially reworked after launch, let someone else shine, for once.
Last edited by Videra; 07-12-2019 at 06:58 PM.


Yea, they've never introduced new jobs or redesigned other jobs to be better. No such thing as DPS or Healers, either, they are all just Warrior jobs in disguise.
Should have a moment of silence for the glory days of old when only double-war comp pugs were up in pf.
Last edited by whiskeybravo; 07-13-2019 at 07:02 AM.
These guys dont remember their history. If you want to know the job the game is about you watch derplander. In 1.x it was about brd. In 2.x he changed to war.3.x he became a drg. 4.x was about sam (though he also made an appeareance as mnk). 5.x hes a drk.
You guys need to rewatch the trailers. Game hasnt been about war since 2.X!
You know whos turn it is? A HEALER! The only rep they get is that taru in the 2.x trailer. Healers for 6.0! Starting the petition!



LOL you sure you want this one to happen? Cause I bet White Mage would love to be the poster class next expansion, if you know what I mean heheheheThese guys dont remember their history. If you want to know the job the game is about you watch derplander. In 1.x it was about brd. In 2.x he changed to war.3.x he became a drg. 4.x was about sam (though he also made an appeareance as mnk). 5.x hes a drk.
You guys need to rewatch the trailers. Game hasnt been about war since 2.X!
You know whos turn it is? A HEALER! The only rep they get is that taru in the 2.x trailer. Healers for 6.0! Starting the petition!



WARRIOR of Light.
WARRIOR of Darkness.
100% irrefutable logic.
I don't think potency is what we need. I think we need actual skills. Take a good look at your level 80 hotbar and compare it to your old level 70 hotbar. Yes, we lost alot of our bloated skills we never used, but lets be honest... what we have now is extremely baren when compared to all other jobs. One example is deliverance stance. Yes, every tank lost their damage increases from those stances, but WAR also lost the passive crit buff which is now completely gone. That might not seem like much, you need to add it to what we have lost.
We have a gap closer we almost never use outside of IR window while all other tanks use them on cooldown for extra damage.
Finally... we are the only tank without a DoT (Salted Earth is a DoT). So lets actually look at our job guage. Its used for upheavel, and fell cleave/decimate. That is our class until inner release. It needed more tools to play with for our job guage like other classes, but we basically only got Nascent Flash with 2 passive traits/skills.


Yes. Others are talking about potency increases and IMO we simply need more abilities to fill in the downtime. Basically we have 1 oGCD in Upheaval and Fell/Feller Cleave. Sure raw potency would help but it's not going to make much difference in playstyle, and as much as I hate to say it WAR is actually kinda boring to play. IC is fun until a WHM comes along and makes it look pedestrian.I don't think potency is what we need. I think we need actual skills. Take a good look at your level 80 hotbar and compare it to your old level 70 hotbar. Yes, we lost alot of our bloated skills we never used, but lets be honest... what we have now is extremely baren when compared to all other jobs. One example is deliverance stance. Yes, every tank lost their damage increases from those stances, but WAR also lost the passive crit buff which is now completely gone. That might not seem like much, you need to add it to what we have lost.
We have a gap closer we almost never use outside of IR window while all other tanks use them on cooldown for extra damage.
Finally... we are the only tank without a DoT (Salted Earth is a DoT). So lets actually look at our job guage. Its used for upheavel, and fell cleave/decimate. That is our class until inner release. It needed more tools to play with for our job guage like other classes, but we basically only got Nascent Flash with 2 passive traits/skills.

Wait, who was baseballing rage orbs around? Dodora or whatever? Are we talking about the lvl 80 war quest? It was super quick and I didn't see any auras - Except gorge when he got jealous.
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