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    xJimmehx's Avatar
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    Leon Manderville
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    War does have the lowest dps in end game dungeons and third lowest in ex trials according to fflogs. I am disappointed seeing this as I had chosen war because it was the highest dps tank and loved fell cleave being such a large skill. Lets be honest. Eventually everything will be about speed runs. The tank with the highest dps, theoretically gets out faster. I prefer this. Of course this wasnt my only decision. I like gaining half of my dps from one button too. Spamming it as much as we do, with such a low potency, takes away some of the impact imo. I like inner chaos more than fell cleave now. I like nascent flash too. But with them only available in 80(ic) and 76(nf) content...

    We're supposed to go back to older content. That is why roulettes exists. Yet the most important skills for me are gated to late game. I have been considering unsubbing until patch or swapping tanks. I miss old war. 2.0/3.0 was probably my favorite because of bloodbath, but i even prefer 4.0 variant over this iteration of war. I dont feel like a war at all. I feel like a dps with low amounts of defensive cooldowns and dont even accel at that, dpsing. \o/

    I know some people are gonna say, "If you want dps play dps." Well, I enjoy dps WITH enmity management and all the extra interactions of a tank. Like watching for tank busters and mitigating them or picking up adds before they stomp my party. I wish nascent flash were easier to use as well. Like bloodbath combined with shake it off, not requiring a target to cast it. Even if the potency had to be reduced to balance it. As well a lower level requirement so we could actually use it. Seriously hurts my soul to AoE in pre-76 content without it. I do plan to run other content than just ShB for the next 2 years..
    Its almost as bad as having an in-battle raise skill on a level 40(42/45/idr) skill in the old days, imo.

    I would have been extremely happy had they given us a weaker Nascent Flash at like 35/40 and then added a trait to make it stronger (its current state) at level 76.
    The hp leech of SC was removed and tacked on again at the very end. Its weird.

    WHO AM I ANYMORE?

    /rant

    Side note, Yoshida said WAR was the most powerful tank. He lied. Peoples parses on fflogs show that is not the case. I assume that parsing is accurate or they wouldnt be using them? I kinda dont like that I was lied to. Though he could have ment something else.. but we dont seem to shine in any department. Do wars even accel at anything? Maybe when it comes to demanding buffs.. we scream the loudest? XD
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    Last edited by xJimmehx; 07-09-2019 at 02:23 PM.

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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    War does have the lowest dps in end game dungeons and third lowest in ex trials according to fflogs. I am disappointed seeing this as I had chosen war because it was the highest dps tank and loved fell cleave being such a large skill. Lets be honest. Eventually everything will be about speed runs. The tank with the highest dps, theoretically gets out faster.
    It could be a little more complicated than that, depending on fight design. If WAR has a great burst DPS, it could help skip some phases that could make fights faster. In that case, having one of the lowest average DPS would not hinder WAR that much.

    The example that comes to mind is Zurvan EX and the famous "skip Soar" that could be achieved far more easily if one of your tanks is a WAR with a massively powerful opener.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 07-09-2019 at 07:39 PM.

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    shao32's Avatar
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Side note, Yoshida said WAR was the most powerful tank. He lied. Peoples parses on fflogs show that is not the case. I assume that parsing is accurate or they wouldnt be using them? I kinda dont like that I was lied to. Though he could have ment something else.. but we dont seem to shine in any department. Do wars even accel at anything? Maybe when it comes to demanding buffs.. we scream the loudest? XD
    yoship say WAR have the most powerful attack, not the strongest dps tank, so he didn't lie since inner chaos is the most powerful hit of the tanks.
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