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  1. #61
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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Schrute View Post
    Interesting take. Only concern is we do not know for sure what the crit scaling will be and how that will translate to raw damage. If there are potency increases in the future, and then crit scaling unintentionally multiplies the damage too high, there would be the need for potency reductions.

    I think there are two routes they can go. Increase fell-cleave potency or change the functionality of onslaught, and it’s potency
    After playing MCH it would be interesting to see something like Inner Chaos resetting the GCD to 1.5 sec. There are more ways than just straight potency increases.

    Personally I'm fine with onslaught. For one it'd be annoying to have to press it every 10 sec. For second, not being a dps gain means it's actually available whenever we need it. In fact I'd rather see DPS neutral gap closers all around, but DRKs and PLDs would cry too much about taking away their free damage.

    Until someone can prove otherwise, I'm sticking with SE just overtuned them a bit too much. I think WAR will be OK in a group that's not padding tanks, which actually is the majority. But SE should reconsider the others based on how much impact feeding them buffs has. Or maybe they're fine with it, who knows.
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  2. #62
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    Schrute Shishio
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    I am also a fan of gap closers being neutral dmg. I like the way onslaught works now too and it’s actually really nice in dungeon settings with hopping to other packs of mobs to avoid dmg, and to not over cap between pulls.

    There are more ways to adjust dmg all around, but cheap and easy way would be fell cleave potency increase. Job play style is actually really fun. Wouldn’t change it.
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  3. #63
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    Novak_04's Avatar
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    Zugz Zwang
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    Behemoth
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Why then should any tank do more damage than War? Warrior is the berserker job.
    Because Warrior has been doing the most damage for how many years now? Resulting in other tanks being backburnered. Warrior has the highest burst of all the tanks.... that alone satisfies your "berserk job" thematic.
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  4. #64
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    I really don't care if WAR falls behind the other tanks. I'm still going to play it. Just like how I played DRK even when it was behind the other tanks. I personally don't see WAR as needing any potency boosts.

    What I don't want is for SE to instantly bend over backwards to alter the job from the ground up two patches in, making the changes every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Curious Gorge wants, regardless if warranted. If they're going to make radical mid-expansion changes, make them for the healers.
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  5. #65
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Why is MCH top ranged DPS?
    Why is BLM top caster DPS?
    Why is SAM top melee DPS?

    Because there has to be one. If you want to argue that they have the highest pDPS because they lack rDPS support, well, all of the tanks have pretty equal party support so technically they should all be doing the same damage. Why then should any tank do more damage than War? Warrior is the berserker job.
    We're talking a difference of around 150 dps.

    When Gunbreaker is the squishiest of the tanks.

    Why is this so unacceptable?
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  6. #66
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    Thela Ivora
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Doesn't matter which tank is in front when they are all within the close margin that they are, why should the top spot be reserved for WAR? Makes no sense that ppl complaint about something so trivial.
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  7. #67
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    The tank DPS differential is absolutely minimal at best. Cool off, Warrior mains. You're still beautiful.
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  8. #68
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Well now, that didn't take long, did it?
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  9. #69
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I thought the "Warrior is bad unless it crushes the other tanks under its heels" was a meme.
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  10. #70
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    Dugu Qiubai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I still think onslaught shouldn't cost rage.

    It's just awkward because of how infuriate and nascent works.

    Nascent flash is pretty cool, I wish it didn't have a party requirement though.

    Would also be nice if there was a way to get eye buff without single target combo so that war to reduce ramp up, especially for aoe purposes.

    Maybe make onslaught free and give 10 secs of eye buff?

    That way war can charge, eye combo to get 30 sec eye buff or charge then overpower and mythril tempest to extend eye buff.
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