Wars in need if potency increases

[Schrute]

We already have 100% crit rate for burst. So we get a couple more % of damage from stacking it. That's not what I'm debating.

What I said is that Warrior doesn't improve in a vacuum. Other tanks stats will go up and they'll also benefit from increased crit % and crit damage. On top of benefiting from raid buffs that we don't.

Crit scaling isn't going to make that much of a difference. Not to mention the massive assumption about stat itemization on future gear.

Interesting take. Only concern is we do not know for sure what the crit scaling will be and how that will translate to raw damage. If there are potency increases in the future, and then crit scaling unintentionally multiplies the damage too high, there would be the need for potency reductions.

I think there are two routes they can go. Increase fell-cleave potency or change the functionality of onslaught, and it’s potency

[whiskeybravo]

Interesting take. Only concern is we do not know for sure what the crit scaling will be and how that will translate to raw damage. If there are potency increases in the future, and then crit scaling unintentionally multiplies the damage too high, there would be the need for potency reductions.

I think there are two routes they can go. Increase fell-cleave potency or change the functionality of onslaught, and it’s potency

After playing MCH it would be interesting to see something like Inner Chaos resetting the GCD to 1.5 sec. There are more ways than just straight potency increases.

Personally I'm fine with onslaught. For one it'd be annoying to have to press it every 10 sec. For second, not being a dps gain means it's actually available whenever we need it. In fact I'd rather see DPS neutral gap closers all around, but DRKs and PLDs would cry too much about taking away their free damage.

Until someone can prove otherwise, I'm sticking with SE just overtuned them a bit too much. I think WAR will be OK in a group that's not padding tanks, which actually is the majority. But SE should reconsider the others based on how much impact feeding them buffs has. Or maybe they're fine with it, who knows.

[Schrute]

I am also a fan of gap closers being neutral dmg. I like the way onslaught works now too and it’s actually really nice in dungeon settings with hopping to other packs of mobs to avoid dmg, and to not over cap between pulls.

There are more ways to adjust dmg all around, but cheap and easy way would be fell cleave potency increase. Job play style is actually really fun. Wouldn’t change it.

[Ekimmak]

I really don't care if WAR falls behind the other tanks. I'm still going to play it. Just like how I played DRK even when it was behind the other tanks. I personally don't see WAR as needing any potency boosts.

What I don't want is for SE to instantly bend over backwards to alter the job from the ground up two patches in, making the changes every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Curious Gorge wants, regardless if warranted. If they're going to make radical mid-expansion changes, make them for the healers.

[Thela]

Doesn't matter which tank is in front when they are all within the close margin that they are, why should the top spot be reserved for WAR? Makes no sense that ppl complaint about something so trivial.

[Videra]

The tank DPS differential is absolutely minimal at best. Cool off, Warrior mains. You're still beautiful.

[Kaedan]

Well now, that didn't take long, did it?

[Taikugemu]

I thought the "Warrior is bad unless it crushes the other tanks under its heels" was a meme.

[NyneSwordz]

I still think onslaught shouldn't cost rage.

It's just awkward because of how infuriate and nascent works.

Nascent flash is pretty cool, I wish it didn't have a party requirement though.

Would also be nice if there was a way to get eye buff without single target combo so that war to reduce ramp up, especially for aoe purposes.

Maybe make onslaught free and give 10 secs of eye buff?

That way war can charge, eye combo to get 30 sec eye buff or charge then overpower and mythril tempest to extend eye buff.

[NyneSwordz]

* nascent chaos works