Dark Knight follow up thread

[Hierro]

When you start to advocate for LD people stop listening. It makes you sound horribly biased. It's a shit ability and every objective player knows it. When pre planned, short of a whm in the team, I die every use of it on Titania ex tethers and fae light.

What I did was describe LD's qualities in an objective manner. It has a longer duration and has one of the shorter cooldowns as far as invulnerabilities are concerned. There just so happens to be an encounter where both of those qualities are taken advantage of. LD is what it is, and that's what good players understand.

Considering I've been using LD just fine and with everyday run of the mill pugs on crystal datacenter PF, I don't think the skill is the reason you keep dying. Besides, as things stand WHM is part of the meta, so LD requiring a bene appears to be a non-issue at the moment, and even if that wasn't the case, healers were getting along just fine all throughout HW when the meta was SCH+AST. Neither had bene yet still dealt with LD just fine.

[Danelo]

I'm not quite sure what you are insinuating by saying the skill isn't the reason I died... I popped it in between first fae light and second then went to 1 hp before the third hit... Check it worked. Oh but the healers couldn't save without beni. Same with the tethers. So what about that did I not do right?
Did I not use enough skills to heal myself up? AD with its 200 pot and SE at 300 pot when you finally get to it. Not going to do it. Death.
Did I not use any of my other healing abilities to help the heal myself? Nope, because I don't have anything else. Dead again.
Did I not take full advantage of a life steal(or some other) mechanic activated by walking dead to assist in healing myself. Nope, it doesn't exist. Still dead.
So if there's nothing in the DRK kit that allows me to help and I'm left with praying then I guess you're wrong and the ability killed me.

I'm glad you've come across good pugs on crystal datacenter but you're just spreading false info when you say this is a good invul.

As far as the longer duration - it depends. You have 9 seconds to go to 1 hp. After that you truly have 9 seconds to receive healing equal to your max hp. When is that point reached? No one knows until WD goes away. That's problem number 1. So let's say you and your whm time this perfectly - at max 18 to 19 seconds. Really that's just 9 seconds of time you can't die, not time that you don't take damage, bc almost every gain your non whm healers make is being wiped away by autos so even if you do live from WD you may die anyway depending on where the next follow up attack is. But hey, you managed to shave 8-10 seconds of its next recast. Great! Worst case scenario is that you don't cut much time off the next cd usage because it wasn't feasible or some other reason. Then you go down to 1 and you get beni right away and you got 1-2 seconds of "can't die" before you get killed by the next leg of a multi hit TB. It is a healer CD pit and not a true tank CD. Useless outside of group content. Completely depending on healers to make this ability ... Work.

There is no comparison to the other tank CDs as a stand alone or when you look at how the kit backs up that ability. You're being anything but objective if saying LD doesnt need a rework.


Side note: saying that whm is in the meta now, therefore a rework of living dead is not necessary, is a weak sauce excuse for devs to be lazy.