Dark Knight follow up thread

[TheRealQuah]

If you are using TBN and it's not breaking, we shouldn't blame the skill, we should blame the bad player who used it at the wrong time. A lot of people in this thread who don't know when and how to use a skill.

You should know the fight, you should know when you need to have 3000mp available because something is going to break TBN.

Like, if TBN isn't going to break then why do you even need to use it at that stage. The only time TBN is a dps loss is if a bad player is using it.

[Inuk9]

If you are using TBN and it's not breaking, we shouldn't blame the skill, we should blame the bad player who used it at the wrong time. A lot of people in this thread who don't know when and how to use a skill.

You should know the fight, you should know when you need to have 3000mp available because something is going to break TBN.

Like, if TBN isn't going to break then why do you even need to use it at that stage. The only time TBN is a dps loss is if a bad player is using it.

So you never missed a TBN in your life?

[TheRealQuah]

So you never missed a TBN in your life?

Nope, not saying that. Nobody is perfect, but we aren't talking about missing TBN. I know when to use TBN, if I miss it because I've made a mistake then I need to improve my timings.

We are talking about people who are using TBN willy nilly and then complaining about it not breaking.

[Shurrikhan]

If you are using TBN and it's not breaking, we shouldn't blame the skill, we should blame the bad player who used it at the wrong time. A lot of people in this thread who don't know when and how to use a skill.

And when there's literally no point in the instance capable of dealing 25% of the DRK's HP in 7 seconds short of the DRK jumping into avoidable AoEs?

[Vaerum]

Maybe change TBN to:
Cooldown 15 secs
Merges your shadow with the target, causing your shadow to take up to 25% of the damage taken for the next 7 seconds. Damage taken will cause mp to drain at a rate of 1mp pt for every 10 damage taken. (Well whatever ratio sets 3k mp to an equivalent amount of hp the shield would provide at lvl 80. Have the shield's mp to hp ratio scale according to some stat, perhaps max hp. Could even do flat ilvl, just something to ensure it keeps up)
Once the effect ends or the limit is reached, your shadow retreats back into you and cause your next edge/flood to deal extra damage according to how much was absorbed. Once again another ratio of x to y.
This way you still have to manage your MP to have your tankbuster mitigation up, if you pop it with less than 3k mp it might not absorb enough to save you. But now when you pop it it's going to be dps neutral no matter what, if it absorbs nothing it cost you nothing, if it absorbs only 10% of max damage, than you only spent a portion of your mana, not the whole 3k, and you still get a powered up flood or edge out of it, just not as strong as if the shield broke.
Later thought: Possibly have the damage bonus from the TBN's stack, so the DRK could game the buff a bit, building up to a larger edge/flood for priority situations. This would make maintaining darkside an actual thing, since you would want to let off the empowered edge/flood while still under the 10% buff from darkside, but would drop APM a bunch since you'd purposefully hold of on edge/flood in certain situations, and drk already feels boring in the rotation anyways.

[TheRealQuah]

And when there's literally no point in the instance capable of dealing 25% of the DRK's HP in 7 seconds short of the DRK jumping into avoidable AoEs?

Well if that's the case, then you don't need to use TBN and should spend that MP on Flood or Edge.

[Shurrikhan]

Well if that's the case, then you don't need to use TBN and should spend that MP on Flood or Edge.

It's not a matter of A vs. B. It's a matter of A was free, and now it's not, and thus you have only B. You're not newly trading out TBNs for EoS/FoS. You're just no longer getting viable access to your on-demand mitigation skill.