Dark Knight follow up thread

[MerlinCross]

Now you have way more tools at your disposal. Abyssal Drain is something to use in raids now, Double Plunge, Living Shadow, Edge of Darkness, higher overall Black blood building (only gaining 10 per Souleater combo in Stormblood was pure ass when WAR gained what, 20? 30?). An actually fantastic burst window.

Blood weapon needed.
TBN blood nerfed.
Blind removed.
Derlium nerfed/changed.
Blood Price gone.
Fairly certain Carve and Spit nerfed on mana gen.
Mana gen nerfed in general.

Double Plunge and Abssyal Drain being useful are not enough for me to come back to a class I feel is worse now. Oh and thanks for giving us a fancier version of Scrouge(That has to bloody move to keep damaging the boss. Does Fray get double Plunge?)

[DRKoftheAzure]

Blood weapon needed.

You mean nerfed right...?

TBN blood nerfed.

You definitely meant removed there...

Blind removed.

And in Stormblood they removed the +20% evasion...

Derlium nerfed/changed.

Not the first time this happened... certainly won't be the last...

Blood Price gone.

On one hand; I'm glad it's gone... But the other hand; I wish they reworked it...

Fairly certain Carve and Spit nerfed on mana gen.
Mana gen nerfed in general.

Oh good, so I'm not the only person who noticed that...

Double Plunge and Abssyal Drain being useful are not enough for me to come back to a class I feel is worse now. Oh and thanks for giving us a fancier version of Scrouge(That has to bloody move to keep damaging the boss. Does Fray get double Plunge?)

Basically how I feel about DRK right now...

[MerlinCross]

You mean nerfed right...?

I was real tired when I was typing that out. But that point is I feel we lost a lot of stuff or nerfed and what have we gained? Inner Release and a buff to our AoE game which wasn't terrible, like it wasn't Ninja. Also I could have sworn we still had the blind tagged to Dark Passenger for Stormblood. Already losing my memory of what stuff did because it's just straight up gone.

I just feel like I'm not doing anything when I play DRK. Sure I actually might be doing more actions but it's spam with less buttons so it doesn't feel like it. And as much as I loved TBN in Stormblood, this really needs to get nerfed. Look I love it, it's still very good, but if something isn't going to change, we're probably going to just get balanced around TBN going forward.

I wish, that would help drk defenses in pre-70 content. Don't know why TBN isn't gained in lower levels, it has spoiled me so much that I feel naked when playing the other tanks besides gnb.

I'm not sure this is a problem for DRK alone. I've been leveling PLD and finding out in early dungeons "I don't have anything ELSE FOR THIS" just feels bad. Now I haven't tried WAR but this just feels like SE forgetting that new players do actually come into the game and the experience is going to be different based on what changes they do.

I know seeing no Trait bonus for DRK from till like 62 would look real off as a new player.

[DRKoftheAzure]

I was real tired when I was typing that out. But that point is I feel we lost a lot of stuff or nerfed and what have we gained? Inner Release and a buff to our AoE game which wasn't terrible, like it wasn't Ninja. Also I could have sworn we still had the blind tagged to Dark Passenger for Stormblood. Already losing my memory of what stuff did because it's just straight up gone.

I just feel like I'm not doing anything when I play DRK. Sure I actually might be doing more actions but it's spam with less buttons so it doesn't feel like it. And as much as I loved TBN in Stormblood, this really needs to get nerfed. Look I love it, it's still very good, but if something isn't going to change, we're probably going to just get balanced around TBN going forward.

DRK still had Dark Passenger in Stormblood but it was heavily nerfed but still had the blind effect, and then they outright removed it but replaced it with Flood of Darkness/Shadwow which I feel is a lazy way of introducing new things to what was originally the first expert tank and now it's lumped in with the beginner's tanks...

I also feel like I'm doing nothing on DRK when waiting on cooldowns or 50 Blood to use whatever Blood spender I can use based on the situation...

[Awful]

DRK still had Dark Passenger in Stormblood but it was heavily nerfed but still had the blind effect, and then they outright removed it but replaced it with Flood of Darkness/Shadwow which I feel is a lazy way of introducing new things to what was originally the first expert tank and now it's lumped in with the beginner's tanks...

I also feel like I'm doing nothing on DRK when waiting on cooldowns or 50 Blood to use whatever Blood spender I can use based on the situation...

I honestly hated Dark Passenger 4800 MP for a blind? Great thanks. It was super situational and you used it maybe a handful of times in raids like O3S or O7S for adds other than that wasn't worth the cost associated with it I like FoS where I can even get a free one with TBN much more engaging than blowing half my mana for a mediocre blind.

[DRKoftheAzure]

I honestly hated Dark Passenger 4800 MP for a blind? Great thanks. It was super situational and you used it maybe a handful of times in raids like O3S or O7S for adds other than that wasn't worth the cost associated with it I like FoS where I can even get a free one with TBN much more engaging than blowing half my mana for a mediocre blind.

The solution was to buff the potency to justify the absurd MP cost but NOPE replacing it with a more quarter-baked skill seems to be the better alternative...

[Awful]

The solution was to buff the potency to justify the absurd MP cost but NOPE replacing it with a more quarter-baked skill seems to be the better alternative...

It's better than Dark Passenger, blind is pretty worthless it does 20 more potency at a better cost I don't get why you defend it when it wasn't very good at all, if I wanted to blind things I'd play old HW DRK when you could have used DP at a better cost with Dark Dance and it was only good in dungeons. Either way old DP was crap and I'm glad it's gone I like FoS, it's DP but does a smidge more damage and gives me Darkside, is it complex? No. Doesn't have to be. It's the natural evolution for DRK for DP because it was bad.