Dark Knight follow up thread

[Sancho_Nyanta]

Yeah, I couldn't tell you why I'm not counting Edge/Flood of Darkness/Shadow, as for Salted Earth it's classified as a buff rather than an actual DoT, plus it doesn't any initial damage when you use it... as for excluding Delirium(A.K.A. discount Inner Release) it's buff that lets you spam one button 5 times which is more just as boring as spamming your 1 single target combo for 90 seconds, Blood Weapon just sucks to use now, No Mercy is a decent buff but does not count as an actual attack, and Bloodfest just gives you 2 more cartridges and also does not count as an actual attack...


Also people Are going to confuse Bow Shock with Bloodspiller now, and same with Salted Earth and Souleater(or Square-Enix)... Suck to be the new people who are trying to learn the terminology...

I will say that you are the first person I've ever seen referring to SE as a buff rather than a DOT, but you do you on that.

Regarding buffs in general, I mean I don't really get why you'd feel that a offensive buff doesn't equate to an offensive based CD. Additionally just because you feel that it, "sucks to use" doesn't detract from the fact that you are still gonna use it. Especially when you are hitting these "buffs" while attacking, which was my point about your original statement that GNB feels faster cuz you are hitting more offensive based cooldowns. Buffs or Offensive based cooldowns (if you are really wanting to separate the distinction for whatever reason) you are still pressing just a little less than the same number of buttons for Gnb per min as you are for Drk. To me they feel about the same speed as the 1 button every other min isn't really noticable.

On another note, while I do feel that Delirium's current form was a lazy and uninspired choice, I can't help but comment how all 4 tanks have a point or 2 where they are just spamming the same button 5+ times per min due to a buff or some skill letting them do so. Holy Spirit, Fell Cleave, and even Atonement and Continuation fits this. I actually think that you're having to hit these even more per minute than HS/FC. Yet it seems only Drk is really drawing people's ire about doing so.

[DRKoftheAzure]

On another note, while I do feel that Delirium's current form was a lazy and uninspired choice, I can't help but comment how all 4 tanks have a point or 2 where they are just spamming the same button 5+ times per min due to a buff or some skill letting them do so. Holy Spirit, Fell Cleave, and even Atonement and Continuation fits this. I actually think that you're having to hit these even more per minute than HS/FC. Yet it seems only Drk is really drawing people's ire about doing so.

At least Continuation changes to the appropriate attack name when you are using Gnashing Fang Combo, which is surprisingly macro friendly... I might name the macro "Mashing Fang" since that is basically how macro friendly it is... although I think Koji Fox knew someone would make a Gnashing Fang Macro with that name...

[Sancho_Nyanta]

Interesting. I'm a bit surprised that it is that nice about working with macros like that. That said, why would you want to use macros for it? Wouldn't it slow up your inputs? I haven't finished leveling it yet but if it is as snappy as Drk then I would hate using macros with it due to the input delays.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Interesting. I'm a bit surprised that it is that nice about working with macros like that. That said, why would you want to use macros for it? Wouldn't it slow up your inputs? I haven't finished leveling it yet but if it is as snappy as Drk then I would hate using macros with it due to the input delays.

I only generally use the macro when I'm offtank, have no defensives ready to use, or fight requires me to move around the boss like in the first dungeon of Shadowbringers with the last boss of said dungeon.