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  1. #11
    Player
    MaraD_'s Avatar
    登録日
    2019/05/20
    投稿
    290
    Character
    Hede Devaul
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    漁師 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:MerlinCross 投稿を閲覧
    What about Gunbreaker then? What spam should it fall into?
    I assume you are referring to me.
    To which the question doesnt quite make sense.
    Not all the tanks require a spam.
    But I also havent touched GNB, nor do I have any interest in it. While I would normally play any tank, and main at least one of them, they ruined a lot of the fun of tanking for me, so unfortunately, I have no feedback on it, nor will i ever most likely.

    I was merely trying to point out a method SE was aiming to do. (And a mistake where I thought they missed doing the very opportunity they set up, but i was incorrect. they did do it, and so i corrected my post on it.)
    (0)
    2019/07/07 10:33; MaraD_ が最後に編集

  2. #12
    Player
    MerlinCross's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/08/27
    投稿
    387
    Character
    Lavitz Orlandeau
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    侍 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:MaraD_ 投稿を閲覧
    I assume you are referring to me.
    To which the question doesnt quite make sense.
    Not all the tanks require a spam.
    But I also havent touched GNB, nor do I have any interest in it. While I would normally play any tank, and main at least one of them, they ruined a lot of the fun of tanking for me, so unfortunately, I have no feedback on it, nor will i ever most likely.

    I was merely trying to point out a method SE was aiming to do. (And a mistake where I thought they missed doing the very opportunity they set up, but i was incorrect. they did do it, and so i corrected my post on it.)
    Yes it was referring to you. Forgive me, the forums seem to be weird when it comes to "Reply with Quote" at times so I couldn't actually get a quote from you.
    (1)

  3. #13
    Player
    Xerkrosis's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/03
    Location
    Ishgard!... I'd like to say, but it was Ul'dah
    投稿
    146
    Character
    Lyaeria Rikason
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    暗黒騎士 Lv 100
    Delirium restores mana on hit. Quietus 500MP, Blood spiller 200MP.

    Now that I'm used to the new system, my biggest issue is: Flood of Shadow/Darkness
    I have my character auto-turn to the target for each action, since the hit-angle is quite narrow. Unlike Dark Passenger, it makes you turn to the targeted enemy. Which is often shit, because I then have to target first another mob, then position myself around the mob, so it shoots into the direction that hits most of the mobs. But then there are mobs, that are important (either must be killed first, or I have it in target to stun/interject in time).
    Dark Passenger, although you had auto-turn for actions enabled, didn't make you turn to said target. You could rotate your char, then hit DP and you hit many mobs by it.
    Flood of Shadow/Darkness: Rotate, hit action, char rotates back to target, shoots.

    I might have less problems, if the tabbing wasn't so horrible!
    (2)
    2019/07/07 16:33; Xerkrosis が最後に編集 理由: tabbing-issue

  4. #14
    Player
    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/06/26
    投稿
    922
    Character
    Gulvioir Muruc
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    暗黒騎士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Nedkel 投稿を閲覧
    Have someone did a average APM count in a duty for 4 different tanks so that we could compare it?
    Gun Breaker CPM: 37
    Dark Knight CPM: 35.6
    Paladin CPM 32.1
    Warrior CPM: 30.3

    Which matches the theoretical predictions.
    (3)

  5. #15
    Player
    Awful's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/07/19
    投稿
    1,278
    Character
    Awful Name
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    暗黒騎士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:DRKoftheAzure 投稿を閲覧
    I actually prefer Stormblood Dark Knight over Shadowbringers Dark Knight, but I also prefer Heavensward Dark Knight over the other 2... but that's just my personal opinion...


    Also tanks with basically only 1 single target combo path and only 1 AoE combo path are very boring in my opinion as well... then again I also find WAR boring...
    I do prefer HW DRK over ShB but not by much, the class is a lot smoother then its ever been and I do love playing it, I'm gonna play it some more tonight and do Titania EX on DRK for my friend which I can't wait to use TBN on fights like that and Fatboi EX. SB DRK is just a hot mess for me it's so much clunk and carpel tunnel spam and I can't justify it being fun for myself, if other people like it great but I just don't see how SB DRK has more fun then what we have now, as for WAR I have no input in it I did play it most of SB since Sigmascape and I hated that I had to switch because DRK played like garbage.
    (1)

  6. #16
    Player
    Drayce1's Avatar
    登録日
    2019/02/24
    投稿
    136
    Character
    Ceciliantas Dragorath
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 90
    Feels streamlined and flows well to me.

    This is a git gut issue.
    (2)

  7. #17
    Player
    shao32's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/04/23
    Location
    arcadis
    投稿
    2,067
    Character
    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    ガンブレイカー Lv 90
    DRK dps has been always sustained, turning his overall dps to a burst WAR one is not something that ppl like since we have WAR for that, the lose of the remaining mechanics just did the rest.
    (7)

  8. #18
    Player
    ADVSS's Avatar
    登録日
    2016/03/29
    投稿
    2,397
    Character
    Advent Shadowsoul
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    暗黒騎士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:shao32 投稿を閲覧
    DRK dps has been always sustained, turning his overall dps to a burst WAR one is not something that ppl like since we have WAR for that, the lose of the remaining mechanics just did the rest.
    DRK has no identity anymore. everything that made it stand out was given to other jobs, right down to bolstering spells and abilities (BLU thing now). Highest apm goes to the new guy. anything else unique has been manditory for tanks little by little every expansion(gap closer, utility,). WAR now asking for potency buffs. The rest of you who like this carnation better start doing the same, or DRW(DKW) will be in the backseat for 2 more years. If you think TBN is the reason to bring a DWR over any other tank, wait till next expansion when they get that ability too.
    (9)
    2019/07/08 01:27; ADVSS が最後に編集

  9. #19
    Player
    shao32's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/04/23
    Location
    arcadis
    投稿
    2,067
    Character
    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    ガンブレイカー Lv 90
    I'm already GNB lvl 80 so yeah I'm finishing the story and being main GNB.

    What I find fun is when ppl say this DRK version is more like HW when the job only share soul eater combo and a interactiveless DA aka edge. for me DRK it's like a WAR with MP oGCD that a old DRK with more burst.
    (2)

  10. #20
    Player
    Nedkel's Avatar
    登録日
    2017/12/23
    投稿
    2,023
    Character
    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    侍 Lv 74
    Quote 引用元:Chrono_Rising 投稿を閲覧
    Gun Breaker CPM: 37
    Dark Knight CPM: 35.6
    Paladin CPM 32.1
    Warrior CPM: 30.3

    Which matches the theoretical predictions.
    Take into account all the downtime you get in duty and these numbers will even out close to each other, maybe around 20-25 CPM.
    (0)

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