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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'll tell you guys what I tell the dps/healer when I am the tank. "I don't do baby pulls"....I'm going to pull big and YOU are going to adapt
    Or, just spit-balling here, you could remember that the other three characters on the screen are also controlled by real people? The other three players aren't there to serve you, entitled swine. If you want to treat the other party members like NPCs, use the trust system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    Or, just spit-balling here, you could remember that the other three characters on the screen are also controlled by real people? The other three players aren't there to serve you, entitled swine. If you want to treat the other party members like NPCs, use the trust system.
    Never used the trust system once. Other players should be pulling their weight instead of wasting other people's time not utilizing their skill set. An aoe rotation by a dps is clicking different skills instead of single target. It is not asking for much.

    Name calling is against the forum rules. You're lucky I do not report people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    some stuff
    No, it's not asking too much, provided you actually ASK, but it sounds more like you are TELLING the other three people in your party that it's your way or the highway.

    How sad that you have no qualms about treating other players like your personal playthings, but you can't handle a wee bit of name calling. Another tank who expects the rest of us to worship the ground you walk on. How tired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    No, it's not asking too much, provided you actually ASK, but it sounds more like you are TELLING the other three people in your party that it's your way or the highway.

    How sad that you have no qualms about treating other players like your personal playthings, but you can't handle a wee bit of name calling. Another tank who expects the rest of us to worship the ground you walk on. How tired.
    Yeah, because not single targeting in large pulls is asking for too much. Give me a break. You have it backwards, THOSE players should have consideration for the rest of the group and utilize their skillset, and use their aoe combos. Classes got a lot of aoe added with this expansion, and there is absolutely no excuse for them to not be using it. Not to mention the removal of TP. Not using aoe during a large pull makes it more difficult for the healer, and the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
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    You misunderstand. I don't disagree with your underlying premise; I prefer the tanks to pull big because it's also a more efficient use of my cards. However, I highly disagree with your approach, and prefer that the tank is kind or at the very least polite about it. Common courtesy and all that. If a tank begins the dungeon by dictating to me or the DPS how the dungeon is going to go (e.g. "I don't pull small, you will adapt to me") I am highly disinclined to cooperate with them, and will probably initiate a vote kick at the earliest opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    You misunderstand. I don't disagree with your underlying premise; I prefer the tanks to pull big because it's also a more efficient use of my cards. However, I highly disagree with your approach, and prefer that the tank is kind or at the very least polite about it. Common courtesy and all that. If a tank begins the dungeon by dictating to me or the DPS how the dungeon is going to go (e.g. "I don't pull small, you will adapt to me") I am highly disinclined to cooperate with them, and will probably initiate a vote kick at the earliest opportunity.
    If I am tanking I shouldn't have to ask the DPS to use their aoe combos. That's the thing. They should just use them. That is the purpose behind the skill combos. If they aren't using them they are at fault for potential wipes.

    To be fair it depends on my mood if I will actually be rude, it usually starts when they ask me to pull smaller or start blaming me on the wipes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    No, it's not asking too much, provided you actually ASK, but it sounds more like you are TELLING the other three people in your party that it's your way or the highway.

    How sad that you have no qualms about treating other players like your personal playthings, but you can't handle a wee bit of name calling. Another tank who expects the rest of us to worship the ground you walk on. How tired.
    I don't think expecting players to use skills is a lot, or that people should have to bend over backwards & ask them to actually put in any effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    bend over backwards
    And I don't consider "/p Big pulls okay?" to be 'bending over backwards'

    A little perspective, perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    And I don't consider "/p Big pulls okay?" to be 'bending over backwards'

    A little perspective, perhaps?
    Big Pulls = standard in anything >50.
    It's not like the tank is coming in and calling everyone filth before they pull. Healers should DPS, DPS should AoE, Tanks should pull enough that the party should have to AoE. The only exception to this would be low level content, & new content that needs to be adjusted too.

    Tanks shouldn't have to ask to start big. It should be expected.

    I love that you preach being kind to other players as well, but offer nothing but insulting remarks here.
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