The DPS is not the Healer

[Felien]

Something that doesn’t makes any sense but is happening a lot on this expansion with the changes in healing.

The tank nicely aks the healer if he can do a large pull. From no where the Dps answer. Well if you want to answer you can go as a healer.

I have no problem with large pulls, but is annoying.

[Videra]

I'm sorry that you have issues with tanks pulling at a reasonable speed?

[Mistyregions]

I'm sorry that you have issues with tanks pulling at a reasonable speed?

People like you make me pray we wall lock every single 3 trash mob, just to force you do the game as intended and not force people to play outside the intended mechanics.

I pray for that day as a MT, I will laugh in glory as you no longer can force your playstyle on others. You wanna be entitled and childish? Then I think the developers should treat yall like children.

[Videra]

People like you make me pray we wall lock every single 3 trash mob, just to force you do the game as intended and not force people to play outside the intended mechanics.

I pray for that day as a MT, I will laugh in glory as you no longer can force your playstyle on others. You wanna be entitled and childish? Then I think the developers should treat yall like children.

I think you're projecting. It's a simple fact that pulling wall to wall is easier on time and resources than pulling one pack by one pack. This is why I tank, so I don't have to deal with people like you arbitrarily making content slow to 'play the game as intended.' Try again.

[Mistyregions]

I think you're projecting. It's a simple fact that pulling wall to wall is easier on time and resources than pulling one pack by one pack. This is why I tank, so I don't have to deal with people like you arbitrarily making content slow to 'play the game as intended.' Try again.

It's easier and time effective, but is not the intended design.

Look at the first 71 dungeon. Pull wall to wall with 71 gear....not intended. Just because YOU out gear it or get bored and want to speed run doesn't mean your expectations should interfere with someones playstyle when they are playing as intended. As intended, intended by the design not by play base.

[Shurrikhan]

It's easier and time effective, but is not the intended design.

Look at the first 71 dungeon. Pull wall to wall with 71 gear....not intended. Just because YOU out gear it or get bored and want to speed run doesn't mean your expectations should interfere with someones playstyle when they are playing as intended. As intended, intended by the design not by play base.

Intent means nothing. Just as if you make a deadly household substance that looks remarkably like candy, for instance, it doesn't matter if killing children wasn't the intended result -- it's still the result caused by how you've designed what you've made -- if you make dungeons that are nearly as safely and easily, and much more quickly, completed by doing it in one particular method, then your design encourages that method. It does not matter that this was a disastrous failure on your part; it is still what you've done, and what will now be worked around and in accordance with.

[Videra]

It's easier and time effective, but is not the intended design.

Look at the first 71 dungeon. Pull wall to wall with 71 gear....not intended. Just because YOU out gear it or get bored and want to speed run doesn't mean your expectations should interfere with someones playstyle when they are playing as intended. As intended, intended by the design not by play base.

I did pull wall to wall in Holminster Switch in 71 gear. It went absolutely fine because I know how to rotate my cooldowns. What you think of as intent is nonsensical at best. Job effectiveness varies by players having a pulse. Just as well, I'm not 'interfering' with anyone's playstyle by making them use their considerably smaller AOE rotations, or heaven forbid I ask the healer to put in as much effort as I do, if needed.

[Felien]

I'm sorry that you have issues with tanks pulling at a reasonable speed?

Not at all, just with the dps that answer, but at the same time. Is the healer and the tank that need to fell comfort with that

[Seraph522]

Not at all, just with the dps that answer, but at the same time. Is the healer and the tank that need to fell comfort with that

Everyone needs to be on board with large pulls. Even if the tank and healer are cool with it, if the DPS can't (or won't) put out enough damage to kill the adds quickly, the pull can fail. Obviously, if the DPS are the only ones asking for large pulls, they don't get to dictate that either, and if they're forcing large pulls, they deserve a kick. But pulling is a team effort, and everyone needs to be up for it.

[Kazrah]

Everyone needs to be on board with large pulls. Even if the tank and healer are cool with it, if the DPS can't (or won't) put out enough damage to kill the adds quickly, the pull can fail. Obviously, if the DPS are the only ones asking for large pulls, they don't get to dictate that either, and if they're forcing large pulls, they deserve a kick. But pulling is a team effort, and everyone needs to be up for it.

Or DPS can just go with the flow and stop feeling so entitled.

But that's just my opinion though (as a DPS player).