Temple Cyclas.....

[NoctisUmbra]

Str you can get from other places and don't need to be use for rings my mnk right now has both str and int over 300 No darklight yet.

With acc rings + 2 Tier 4(30 and 27)+4 on hands = 61attack+36acc

Darklight hands + str rings give you 30atk 35acc and 36str

So you have 1acc and 31atk vs 36 str

With Darklight boots + body you will have another 28acc. so can take off an acc ring for a str ring/atk ring

STR and ATK go at a 2:3 ratio without any consideration for class bonus. So 2 STR gives the equivalent increase to damage as 3 Attack Power. If the class in question also has STR as a bonus attribute then it gives even more of an increase to damage until you hit the STR cap. However the 2:3 holds true even after the STR cap. Such has been tested by Seiken extensively and confirmed by other sources.

Therefore 36 STR is equivalent to 54 Attack Power. This is only if you already hit the STR cap on PGL/MNK, the value of which is yet unknown. If you haven't hit it, then STR gives an even greater increase to damage done as the 2:3 effect is compounded with the class attribute bonus.

So yes, I'll gladly take 36 STR (54 attack) over 30 attack + 1 acc.

As for boots, that's another story. I'm comparing 2 pieces exclusively, and only including rings since you did. Gaining multiple pieces of the darklight set can change everything.

[Xianghua]

STR and ATK go at a 2:3 ratio without any consideration for class bonus. So 2 STR gives the equivalent increase to damage as 3 Attack Power. If the class in question also has STR as a bonus attribute then it gives even more of an increase to damage until you hit the STR cap. However the 2:3 holds true even after the STR cap. Such has been tested by Seiken extensively and confirmed by other sources.

Therefore 36 STR is equivalent to 54 Attack Power. This is only if you already hit the STR cap on PGL/MNK, the value of which is yet unknown. If you haven't hit it, then STR gives an even greater increase to damage done as the 2:3 effect is compounded with the class attribute bonus.

So yes, I'll gladly take 36 STR (54 attack) over 30 attack + 1 acc.

As for boots, that's another story. I'm comparing 2 pieces exclusively, and only including rings since you did. Gaining multiple pieces of the darklight set can change everything.

I'll take your word for it since you do look like you know more then me. and thank you for the tips. However when more gear does get added. I still see such a high amount of attack in 1 piece highly valuable. which as you said is another story.

[NoctisUmbra]

I'll take your word for it since you do look like you know more then me. and thank you for the tips. However when more gear does get added. I still see such a high amount of attack in 1 piece highly valuable. which as you said is another story.

Agreed

/10char

[Xianghua]

Agreed

/10char

What I'm aiming for my monk is

Weapon: Ifrit Claws
Head: Darklight (atk+15, Crit +40 crit power+30 int+20)
Body: Darklight (atk+10 str+20 acc+18 critpower+30 stp+40)
Hand: Raptorskin (+61 atk)
Legs: Felt Trousers (str+20 Dex+16)
Feet: Darklight (acc+10 critpower+20)
Waist: Explorer's (crit +12)
Rings: STRx2 (36 STR)
Braclet: Rubelight (str+3)
Earring: Explorer's (atk+5)
Neck: Explorer's (15acc 20 crit)

So in all

STR +79
Attack +121
Acc +43
Dex +16
Int +20
Crit rate +72
Crit power +80
STP +40

Not sure if It will be the best set up for monk. Will have to wait and see. Also have a 3meld gloves with +40 str on them.

[Meatdawg]

STR and ATK go at a 2:3 ratio without any consideration for class bonus. So 2 STR gives the equivalent increase to damage as 3 Attack Power. If the class in question also has STR as a bonus attribute then it gives even more of an increase to damage until you hit the STR cap. However the 2:3 holds true even after the STR cap. Such has been tested by Seiken extensively and confirmed by other sources.

Therefore 36 STR is equivalent to 54 Attack Power. This is only if you already hit the STR cap on PGL/MNK, the value of which is yet unknown. If you haven't hit it, then STR gives an even greater increase to damage done as the 2:3 effect is compounded with the class attribute bonus.

So yes, I'll gladly take 36 STR (54 attack) over 30 attack + 1 acc.

As for boots, that's another story. I'm comparing 2 pieces exclusively, and only including rings since you did. Gaining multiple pieces of the darklight set can change everything.

You have your str:atk conversion backwards.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post589207

3 str = 2 atk

[NoctisUmbra]

You have your str:atk conversion backwards.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post589207

3 str = 2 atk

Pretty sure I got it right.

Though it does seem to be presented in reverse on the thread you linked - which I read - as well as Seiken's.

Neither of them, from what I can tell, show testing of the actual STR:ATK ratio. More like they show how that relationship persists even after the attribute bonus hits a cap.

[Meatdawg]

Pretty sure I got it right.

Though it does seem to be presented in reverse on the thread you linked - which I read - as well as Seiken's.

Neither of them, from what I can tell, show testing of the actual STR:ATK ratio. More like they show how that relationship persists even after the attribute bonus hits a cap.

Well Seiken also stats it's a 3:2 ratio str:atk

"Attack Power

Attack Power appears to have the greatest influence on auto-attack and weapon skills when Strength has been “capped” at 290. Unlike Piety and Strength, Attack Power does not have specific value at which it caps. However, based on my Archer testing where Attack Power capped on R1 Corroded Coblyns, I would venture to say that if you got your Attack Power high enough on Lancer, you will cap against the monster’s Def/Vit/Lvl (I’m not sure which influences ATK). Also, similar to Archer, Strength and Attack Power seem to have a 3:2 ratio (STR:ATK). Any additional damage that STR above 290 adds is from its 3:2 Attack Power influence."

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IE-ATK-Testing

I am more inclined to believe them (Seiken & Kaeko) then older data from Carraway