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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Tonberry
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    The Warrior of Kindness (Spoiler)

    I’m a bit disappointed that there was no Warrior of Darkness. I get the that we’re fighting light which is opposite of dark yet still evil. It makes no sense that the light is evil (unless in Final Fantasy). So if light is evil and dark is evil what is good? I think the light should’ve been good and too much of it would of... nvm.

    SE pulled a gotcha with their video previews like they always do. Making us think we were going to be going bad for this expansion. I really was hoping we were going to become evil. Oh well maybe in an alternate universe or something.

    Playing through the expansion I didn’t see anything with us being the Warrior of Darkness. It was more like the Warrior of Kindness. Good deeds fallowed everywhere I went and I was really disappointed. What was the point of being dark if all we did was fight darkness in the form of evil light.

    I was hoping we get corrupted with the light and become evil, but again it was all a disappointment and same O same O. The main characters even dying and coming back to life was predictable. They should’ve died by my hand after I became corrupted by the light. That would of been more exciting to watch.

    The story/music/voice overs/fast combat were all a great addition to the game. 10/10. Wish we were evil in this game.
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    Ill be honest, I was waiting for the transformation too but never seen it..... GOT ME AGAIN


    BUT


    The story is SOOOOO AMAZING!! GREAT JOB SE!!! LOVE IT 3000!!!!
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    uuuh what.

    Light is not evil, nor is Darkness. Too much of either is bad but not necessairly "evil". They have stated before Shadowbringers (in Heavensward actually) that neither are evil but too much of either is very dangerous and will corrupt life.

    I don't feel it's nice to blame SE for your your prejudices regarding Light and Darkness and how one of them "has" to be evil. I wish people would inherently stop giving moral concepts to Light and Darkness. Guess what. They aren't people so morality shouldn't apply to it. They are technically energy.

    You don't go around saying electricity is evil now do you? It can be dangerous yes but it doesn't get out of its way to kill your family for the giggles now, does it?
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    I think it's how it was framed. "Become what you must". "We fall" just to name a few examples. Gave me the impression that the time for mercy and compassion for my enemies is over. What's that, your granny needs a bottle of milk? Eff yo granny, I don't got time to give. Fight back the light of oppression with the darkness of justice.

    Turns out with I was right with only the latter of that paragraph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I think it's how it was framed. "Become what you must". "We fall" just to name a few examples. Gave me the impression that the time for mercy and compassion for my enemies is over. What's that, your granny needs a bottle of milk? Eff yo granny, I don't got time to give. Fight back the light of oppression with the darkness of justice.

    Turns out with I was right with only the latter of that paragraph.
    Except "Become what you must" was accurate too as soon as Y'Shtola got involved and the trickle of revelations started.
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Well, we did bring Darkness upon the first reflect, to the people of this world drowning in neverending light we pierced the blinding sky to cover them with the soothing cloak of the night.

    Light vs Darkness isn't good vs bad, its not about how we murder people to spread evil upon the too much goodies. Its about how the ethereal energie of light overflowned and corrupt this world and how we methaphorically bring the darkness. We fought the corruption, make it our own and use it to fight for our own liberty to live.

    Sure, we're still the Warrior of light with an edgy name but in the same time, from the point of view of ascien we definitely are the baddies obstructing the reunification of what was once one single world of perfection. We became what we must, we fully became the opressor of an ancient civilisation wishing to survive. We don't harness the dark energy but we sure fight against light aspected corruption and this is only the beggining, who know what lie ahead. The light still shine far too bright in this world and if the sky is now dressed of a sea of star it may still need to be filled of dark aspected ether and if not by wrongdoing we may still have to make it fall upon the source of this mess by our own hands.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 07-06-2019 at 01:36 AM.

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    They never said anything about us being anything typically "evil" or "bad" though. Light and dark, good and bad, it's all subjective.

    From the 3.4 Warriors of Darkness' point of view, they were the good guys trying to save their own world. Had to do some bad stuff in the process, but it was ultimately for the greater good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    They never said anything about us being anything typically "evil" or "bad" though. Light and dark, good and bad, it's all subjective.

    From the 3.4 Warriors of Darkness' point of view, they were the good guys trying to save their own world. Had to do some bad stuff in the process, but it was ultimately for the greater good.
    They destroyed their own world and tried to destroy another. It doesn't matter the perspective, they were "bad" guys. Any "greater good" accomplished from genocide will inevitable be drowned out by evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    They destroyed their own world and tried to destroy another. It doesn't matter the perspective, they were "bad" guys. Any "greater good" accomplished from genocide will inevitable be drowned out by evil.
    They destroyed their world by trying to save it. Basically what we were doing in the source. Fighting all the darkness.

    They too were WoL, just like us. Doing the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They destroyed their world by trying to save it. Basically what we were doing in the source. Fighting all the darkness.

    They too were WoL, just like us. Doing the same thing.
    The key difference between us is that we didn't go into their world trying to murderize the innocent.
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