Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
And again, take note of the methods of summoning.
Zodiark required the sacrifice of half of the population, but conveniently not the convocation of 14(13) who actually summoned him.
Hydaelyn was summoned by the self-sacrifice of those who summoned her. (hints that it could be 'the twelve')

Zodiark represents selfish self-preservation.
Hydaelyn represents selfless sacrifice for the benefit of others.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if that very distinction means everything towards the nature of the summoned primal. It is a Final Fantasy after all.
And what have the Scions done when invoking a summoning ritual so far? Louisoix? Papalymo?
..Louisoix...have you actually done the coil storyline?

I don't think the person you quoted was also arguing over a reverse of roles, rather that the story may be saying that ALL primals may have their faults including the eldest of the two. This whole story is about how light and dark is about aspects necessary to sustain life.

(But besides that it's funny that you find light(white) being "bad" when culturally White is considered death in some cultures anyways)

As far as summoning, where did you get that none of the council sacrificed? The population that sacrificed were voluntary but we still don't know the story if the council demanded others for the first attempt - other than they were overseeing the summoning.

That said it's hard to call something a DEATH God when the very reason to summon it was to keep from total annihilation/extinction, I mean otherwise we wouldn't have a story period. Final Days happens, planet is done, no Ancients, no Zodiark, no Hydaelyn.

We don't know if they KNEW tempering was the side effect, there's evidence that it's possible depending on when the 14th (strongly hinted WoL) member left. We don't know who was tempered to date for sure. I mean we have clues it may have been those involved in the summoning, and or others around.

If anything seems that they were content at the very least to do the first 2 sets of sacrifice because 1. No Planet, no game. 2. No life (:P)

It was the third where we got the counterbalance because it was going too far at that point. I mean why was Hyydaelyn made not immediately after if the first set of sacrifices was a real problem?