Trust System Leveling

[Sylve]

Remember that armory is a bulk of that...and armory is persistent for the entire period that trusts are deleveled...no matter what.

My Monk went in at at zero exp into 71, its taken 3 runs with rested the whole way to get to 90%~. A 4th run will finish the level, but ill be out of rested.
So im looking at 5, maybe 6 runs at 72 to get to 73.

And yes, that includes armory. How could it not? You need 80 to complete the MSQ and get to the levelling of Trust in the first place, lol.

You don't need to level them for the actual main story. I ran all my dungeons with trusts other than the trials. Once you hit 80 though and finish story you'll need to re-level them.

Its worth noting that it seems that Trust levelling is an entirely optional side/minigame. Unless they enable Trusts on the 5.x series of post 80 MSQ dungeons, the only reward to levelling Trusts is unlocking their Glamour Option so you can make them wear their old outfits.

[galbsadi]

My Monk went in at at zero exp into 71, its taken 3 runs with rested the whole way to get to 90%~. A 4th run will finish the level, but ill be out of rested.
So im looking at 5, maybe 6 runs at 72 to get to 73.

And yes, that includes armory. How could it not? You need 80 to complete the MSQ and get to the levelling of Trust in the first place, lol.



Its worth noting that it seems that Trust levelling is an entirely optional side/minigame. Unless they enable Trusts on the 5.x series of post 80 MSQ dungeons, the only reward to levelling Trusts is unlocking their Glamour Option so you can make them wear their old outfits.

The person I was replying to was talking about how it's 5 runs per level unless you have buffs to shorten such. I was pointing out that Armory alone basically turns that into 3. (Sorry if my point there got missed earlier.)

It should also be noted that the second point of Trust leveling is....being able to use Trusts outside of Holminster Switch. Don't level 'em, can't use 'em. So, theoretically speaking, let's pretend I was a new player who wasn't the altoholic I am...and I wanted to use trusts in, say, Mt. Gulg because I was terrified of player groups for whatever reason (maybe I couldn't Rubix cube very well, for example). On the first class, no problem, no big deal! Trusts are there. Now, let's say I wanted a round 2 (maybe to get better, maybe to level the one alt class I might have)...after I finished Shadowbringers. Tough luck, have to run every other dungeon lv71+ at least 12 times each just to try it. That's a bit much, I'd say.

I'm not saying it should necessarily be 1:1, but some concessions (maybe leveling all trusts instead of the 3 you choose that run, or maybe letting them get exp from mobs as well, or maybe giving them an 18h mission like squadrons had, etc.) would probably go a long way to improving the system.

[Sylve]

The person I was replying to was talking about how it's 5 runs per level unless you have buffs to shorten such. I was pointing out that Armory alone basically turns that into 3. (Sorry if my point there got missed earlier.)

It should also be noted that the second point of Trust leveling is....being able to use Trusts outside of Holminster Switch. Don't level 'em, can't use 'em. So, theoretically speaking, let's pretend I was a new player who wasn't the altoholic I am...and I wanted to use trusts in, say, Mt. Gulg because I was terrified of player groups for whatever reason (maybe I couldn't Rubix cube very well, for example). On the first class, no problem, no big deal! Trusts are there. Now, let's say I wanted a round 2 (maybe to get better, maybe to level the one alt class I might have)...after I finished Shadowbringers. Tough luck, have to run every other dungeon lv71+ at least 12 times each just to try it. That's a bit much, I'd say.

I'm not saying it should necessarily be 1:1, but some concessions (maybe leveling all trusts instead of the 3 you choose that run, or maybe letting them get exp from mobs as well, or maybe giving them an 18h mission like squadrons had, etc.) would probably go a long way to improving the system.

I am the one you were replying to lol. I didn't specify Armory in that post because I kind of assumed it would be accounted for by virtue of Trust levelling not being available until after 80, where Armory Bonus kicks in.
So basically, Im saying 4 - 5 runs, up to 6 is required just to level yourself through it, so the Trusts should level almost in parity with you.

The MSQ version of Trusts are designed to help ensure that even those who are uncomfortable in groups can clear the story at their own pace without feeling like they've been railroaded (except trials of course) into grouping with randoms.
So to the person in your example, I would simply say to them if they want to farm Mt Gulg with Trusts post MSQ for whatever reason, you'll need to pony up the time to get them there. And you'd have leveled your alt job with the Trusts anyways so its a non-issue.