Is Tenacity still a dead stat?

[AziraSyuren]

I'd never recommend it because I'm always a proponent of doing the most damage possible, but unlike parry, at least you're not griefing if you do.

The problem is that it doesn't even really work that well for the intended purpose of lowering damage. It's rarely the difference between life and death and it saving the healers a GCD is even rarer.

[Vatom]

Just go crit and det no point in TEN

[Sqwall]

I'm actually Crit/Det/Ten on my Warrior. The most TEN I had was 1200 something. Now it's back down to 900 ish now that i'm 600 ilevel nearing my BIS

Which is funny...since my static healers seem to notice a difference from 1200 to 900 when taking damage. Which might actually be a good indicator as they would once use 1 oGCD to heal me, now they use 2 oGCDS to heal me.

Is 300 tenacity going to break the bank...not really. As I sacrifice ten for more vit sooo it's kind of a wash.

Ten is great for prog and a filler meld. Warrior doesn't really need SKS or DH so I just throw TEN in there.

[shao32]

It's a necroed thread from 2019 ppl.

[Maxilor]

Necro thread aside....as a PLD what would I meld in Endwalker 2022 the Year of Our Lord and Savior?

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

Necro thread aside....as a PLD what would I meld in Endwalker 2022 the Year of Our Lord and Savior?

Prioritise Crit > DH > Det for PLD melding.

[Absurdity]

Tenacity is basically still the absolute last stat in the priority list.


It's SKS (as much as you need for your rotation to work) > Crit > DH > DET > TEN for Gunbreaker, Paladin and Dark Knight


and SKS (as much as you need for your rotation to work) > Crit > DET > TEN > DH for Warrior, the only tank where Direct Hit is the weakest stat, and should be absolutely avoided if possible, because of all the auto direct crit abilities it has.


This unfortunately makes warrior require a completely separate gearset compared to all the other tanks.

[Sqwall]

Tenacity is basically still the absolute last stat in the priority list.


It's SKS (as much as you need for your rotation to work) > Crit > DH > DET > TEN for Gunbreaker, Paladin and Dark Knight


and SKS (as much as you need for your rotation to work) > Crit > DET > TEN > DH for Warrior, the only tank where Direct Hit is the weakest stat, and should be absolutely avoided if possible, because of all the auto direct crit abilities it has.


This unfortunately makes warrior require a completely separate gearset compared to all the other tanks.

This is why I hate being an omni tank with warrior being my first choice...I can't switch to other tanks not without completely re-melding.

[RyuDragnier]

Gonna be honest, I don't know why tanks and healers can even use DH to begin with since none of their gear has it. You'd think it would be a DPS only stat like how Tenacity is only tanks and Piety is only healers.

[Absurdity]

Gonna be honest, I don't know why tanks and healers can even use DH to begin with since none of their gear has it. You'd think it would be a DPS only stat like how Tenacity is only tanks and Piety is only healers.

Nobody really knows, but as long as Direcxt Hit gives us a bigger dps increase we will continue to use it.

And even if we can't meld Direct Hit anymore we will simply replace those with Determination, making DH inaccessible to tanks and healers will not suddenly make Piety or Tenacity more valuable, it would take a massive shift in encounter design for them to become more useful substats...maybe that is exactly why tanks and healers can meld Direct Hit, because their own specific substats are simply not good.