Is Tenacity still a dead stat?

[Magnedeus]

If so, what are tanks melding right now?

[Dhaid]

I ain't no numbers guy, but for endgame raiding speedkills, tenacitys never been a thought to meld.

For everything else though, its really up to preference. Ive never melded it so I've no idea if it makes a big difference, but melding anything is a positive dps increase so go nuts

[Derio]

Still going with Crit as no details on tenacity yet from what I’ve heard

[Donjo]

Here's a quick and dirty comparison based on information the Theoryjerks have crafted so far. If you have 2500...

Critical Hit - Your DPS should increase by approximately 9.3%
Direct Hit - Your DPS should increase by approximately 8.8%
Determination - Your DPS should increase by approximately 8.5%
Tenacity - Your DPS should increase by approximately 6.4%
Skill Speed - Not quite that easy, unfortunately, as it highly depends on what Tank you're thinking about.

As you can see, Tenacity falls behind when it comes to damage when compared to the more specialized damage increasers. That's because it reduces the damage you take by the same amount. It will never beat the other stats in raw damage due to this extra bonus but, as you can see, it's not far enough behind that having some will cripple your damage output. The days of the "Tank Stat" contributing 0 DPS are long behind us, fortunately.

[TouchandFeel]

Another consideration is that self-heals from things like Soul Eater are no longer based on damage done and are now straight potency based cures, so now things like crit, direct hit and det no longer boost self-healing while it looks like Ten does. Probably still a minor defensive/sustain boost but it does make it a little better for prog.

[Arsthan]

Another consideration is that self-heals from things like Soul Eater are no longer based on damage done and are now straight potency based cures, so now things like crit, direct hit and det no longer boost self-healing while it looks like Ten does. Probably still a minor defensive/sustain boost but it does make it a little better for prog.

The potency heals on GNB, WAR and DRK are totally separate effects from the skill itself - while yes, they're not affected by the damage dealt anymore(meaning crits+direct hits would be more healing), they became pure potency heals, like you'd see on a healer for example. They definitely can crit, but the damage of the skill doesn't need to be a crit as well since it's separate. Basicly, Crit is king pretty much.

As for Tenacity, it's a prog stat. It was used to progging Ultimate for example. It has its uses, just not for achieving best DPS.

[Magnedeus]

Is it ok to meld it for the sake of damage reduction or should i just meld something else?

[SinicalSam]

It's totally okay to meld it for damage reduction!

[AziraSyuren]

I'd never recommend it because I'm always a proponent of doing the most damage possible, but unlike parry, at least you're not griefing if you do.

The problem is that it doesn't even really work that well for the intended purpose of lowering damage. It's rarely the difference between life and death and it saving the healers a GCD is even rarer.

[Vatom]

Just go crit and det no point in TEN