What bothers you most about the current synthesis system?

[Kiote]

The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive. The current 1.21 crafting is Perfect the way it is. The Skills need to be adjusted for the new system and we need a recipe book, but your not going to make a more "fun" mini game for crafting. Any mini game gets boring when it is the only thing you can do. Crafting is and always will be a Niche part of an MMO. You like it or you don't. The difference for Final Fantasy over any other MMO is people who Already Like Crafting actually get to craft and not just watch the game do it for them.

The only solution to the crafting is Boring and Repetitive problem is Content.

[HiirNoivl]

The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive.

You're talking to someone who gathers on a near pathological level. Is that not repetitive?

You're just making excuses for SE.

There are other games that have actual crafting GAMES. They're all different, require skill, and even team work, and are engaging activities. In fact they're addictive and I have to put limits on how much I craft because time flies when you're having fun. This is a game I actually return to when I'm bored with FFXIV... and one of the reasons is the awesome crafting.

Spam-enter is not a game.

[Kiote]

You're talking to someone who gathers on a near pathological level. Is that not repetitive?

You're just making excuses for SE.

There are other games that have actual crafting GAMES. They're all different require skill and even team work and are engaging activities.

Spam-enter is not a game.

If your Spamming enter to craft now you are doing it Very wrong and may well be the worst and least productive crafter in the game.

If you actually pay attention and put in a little effort you will double your XP and have fun. Maybe you should stop talking about things you know nothing about and stop AFK crafting. +

[HiirNoivl]

If your Spamming enter to craft now you are doing it Very wrong and may well be the worst and least productive crafter in the game.

Resorting to name calling already?

If you actually pay attention and put in a little effort you will double your XP and have fun. Maybe you should stop talking about things you know nothing about and stop AFK crafting. +

OMG are you saying that instead of spamming standard, I should be spamming Careful? That's where the fun was all this time?

Who'da thunkit.

this isnt puzzle pirates

Everyone Crafts in Puzzle Pirates. Because it's fun... and because you can work together... and because it's fun.

No one crafts in FFXIV "because it's fun".

[Akira_Tenshi]

The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive. The current 1.21 crafting is Perfect the way it is. The Skills need to be adjusted for the new system and we need a recipe book, but your not going to make a more "fun" mini game for crafting. Any mini game gets boring when it is the only thing you can do. Crafting is and always will be a Niche part of an MMO. You like it or you don't. The difference for Final Fantasy over any other MMO is people who Already Like Crafting actually get to craft and not just watch the game do it for them.

The only solution to the crafting is Boring and Repetitive problem is Content.

Don't tell me what I wont like. I have played plenty of MMO's with crafting systems I have really enjoyed, FF XIV just isn't one of those, nobody here used the word repetitive anyway, we said slow and boring.

[Kiote]

Don't tell me what I wont like. I have played plenty of MMO's with crafting systems I have really enjoyed, FF XIV just isn't one of those, nobody here used the word repetitive anyway, we said slow and boring.

Name Two other MMOs that have a crafting system that actually requires the User to actually craft the items.

They do not exsist.

FFXIV is the only MMO that is actually trying to turn crafting into a Part of the game and not just a list you click on. When your the first one to put any real effort in to something, it takes time to fine tune it.

No one in this forum can say that crafting is moving in the wrong direction. You would lose all credibility.

It is now faster, simpler, and more engaging. How many Patches did it take to fix the combat system? 8?

[TheVedis]

Name Two other MMOs that have a crafting system that actually requires the User to actually craft the items.

They do not exsist.

FFXIV is the only MMO that is actually trying to turn crafting into a Part of the game and not just a list you click on. When your the first one to put any real effort in to something, it takes time to fine tune it.

No one in this forum can say that crafting is moving in the wrong direction. You would lose all credibility.

It is now faster, simpler, and more engaging. How many Patches did it take to fix the combat system? 8?

theres also the fact that some people who think that puzzles would be "funner" dont take into account they will also be more tedious and annoying and will probly turn more people off to crafting then onto it

this isnt puzzle pirates, the crafting needs to be simple, if that makes it boring to some people so be in, there is no way to win everyone over anyway as some people will hate it regardless

[Sabaku_Usagi]

My biggest problem with the crafting system is there is no "off" button for the mini-game. I really do enjoy the mini-game when I'm trying for HQs (it really is a lot better after the patch), but sometimes you just want to craft NQ items that are at or above your crafting level. I really detest having to mash normal/wait commands in order to hopefully craft the item successfully, only to have it break with 0 durability & 100% completion.

I would like an option to where if you've successfully crafted the item once, you can choose to craft without the ability to increase the quality of the item. I understand the use of "Hasty Hands" but that's really for lower level synthing with a high level crafting job. It's silly and pointless to cut your durability in half with 1 unsuccessful hasty hands. I like the concept of it, but it just doesn't work with recipes that are at or above your current level.

I feel it would balance out the system as it currently is, because you are giving up the free exp bonuses for more rapid production. It would be 100% optional, and not defaulted but it would definitely save my wrist from getting carpal tunnel!

[Jinko]

Name Two other MMOs that have a crafting system that actually requires the User to actually craft the items.

They do not exsist.

Vanguard has a much better crafting system than XIV, and that free to play Sony MMO (free realms) has a variety of mini game crafting stuff, again which is better than XIV.

[Molly_Millions]

The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive. The current 1.21 crafting is Perfect the way it is. The Skills need to be adjusted for the new system and we need a recipe book, but your not going to make a more "fun" mini game for crafting. Any mini game gets boring when it is the only thing you can do. Crafting is and always will be a Niche part of an MMO. You like it or you don't. The difference for Final Fantasy over any other MMO is people who Already Like Crafting actually get to craft and not just watch the game do it for them.

The only solution to the crafting is Boring and Repetitive problem is Content.

As somebody said earlier in the thread, some sort of puzzle game would do it for me. Something like a sliding puzzle would work. The less moves, the higher the quality. If you make too many moves, your synth would fail. The puzzle could be more complex the farther you are from the optimal level for the synth.

something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_puzzle