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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    by your logic all combat classes should be combined into 1 too since its pointless to mindlessly grind
    How did you make the connection that we should combine combat classes? Seems you did not read my post. "I see the merit in grinding battle; your skills improve."

    I am proposing SE abolish recipe level requirements for item creation, nothing more. The mini-game, recipes, leves, lore, etc. could all remain the same. You are misunderstanding me if you think I am suggesting get rid of all of the content, or change any other parts of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RahJah View Post
    How did you make the connection that we should combine combat classes? Seems you did not read my post. "I see the merit in grinding battle; your skills improve."

    I am proposing SE abolish recipe level requirements for item creation, nothing more. The mini-game, recipes, leves, lore, etc. could all remain the same. You are misunderstanding me if you think I am suggesting get rid of all of the content, or change any other parts of the game.
    so you want a level 1 to be able to make a level 50 item?(or attempt)

    that is also not a good idea, the current restrictions are there cuz they prevent you from uber failing creation of the item

    right now you can make recipes 9 levels higher then you, anything more and you pretty much auto fail

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    so you want a level 1 to be able to make a level 50 item?(or attempt)

    that is also not a good idea, the current restrictions are there cuz they prevent you from uber failing creation of the item

    right now you can make recipes 9 levels higher then you, anything more and you pretty much auto fail
    If the required level restrictions are removed your aforementioned problems would be irrelivent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RahJah View Post
    If the required level restrictions are removed your aforementioned problems would be irrelivent.
    so your saying you should be allowed to craft every item in the game at level 1?

    that in itself is just retarded in its own right then

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    so your saying you should be allowed to craft every item in the game at level 1?

    that in itself is just retarded in its own right then
    Very true.

    But you know what isn't?

    Static access to crafting leves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    so your saying you should be allowed to craft every item in the game at level 1?

    that in itself is just retarded in its own right then
    Very true.

    But you know what isn't?

    Static access to crafting leves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Very true.

    But you know what isn't?

    Static access to crafting leves.
    thats a differnet story altogether right now, i dont think anyone would really mind that

  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    so your saying you should be allowed to craft every item in the game at level 1?

    that in itself is just retarded in its own right then
    Crafting should be fun, not a chore that we loathe.

    Goal: I would love to make my own gear and farm ALL my own items; I am not alone!

    Questions: How many hours of grinding would it take to accomplish my aforementioned goal?
    Answer: Too many for the MAJOR majority of players globally.

    Solution: Devs read all the comments promoting grind elimination. Hopefully by 2.0, we can craft/gather ALL our own items without having to grind for EVERY DoH/DoL job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RahJah View Post
    Crafting should be fun, not a chore that we loathe.

    Goal: I would love to make my own gear and farm ALL my own items; I am not alone!

    Questions: How many hours of grinding would it take to accomplish my aforementioned goal?
    Answer: Too many for the MAJOR majority of players globally.

    Solution: Devs read all the comments promoting grind elimination. Hopefully by 2.0, we can craft/gather ALL our own items without having to grind for EVERY DoH/DoL job.
    lol no. You're not considering pthat people do find crafting to be fun as is.

    We're meant to rely on eachother in a player run economy, not be all self-sufficient from the get-go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    so your saying you should be allowed to craft every item in the game at level 1?
    To answer your question directly, NO.

    We should have to complete a mission or storyline to unlock a crafting/gathering job. (perhaps they could give you your first tool at that point). Then, we should have to aquire the ingredients and recipe (recipes are aquired with leve completion). Finally, after we have the unlocked the job via a fun mission with cool cs; aquired the tool, recipe, and ingredients; we should be able to craft the item. All that would be lost is the grind. All that would be gained would be better lore and crafting/gather fun for ALL not just TheVedis.
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