Quote Originally Posted by Drayos View Post
The other support classes actually do not. Every class took utility nerfs to make room for dancer.

Bards utility has gone down dramatically. And is now far less raid dps wise then dancer or ninja.

Machinist is on stormblood monk levels of support. With just 1 survivability buff. And no other support.

Dragoon no longer has piercing debuff (although it’s personal dps is too strong for its raid dps, I’m sure it will be nerfed tho in some reguards)

I have no idea about RDM not that they contributed to farm runs, so they maybe only used for progression again I don’t know.

Dancer and ninja are the two highest raid dps classes therefore their raid dps is lower. This is so it doesn’t become more effective to stack these classes instead of having a variety of classes present.

Dragoon I can understand

But how u believe machinist and bard offers the same raid dps gains as dancer or ninja is beyond me u guys are litteral 10% raid wide damage increases.

The entire raids burst phases revolve around you. Your the most important dps there. There’s always a cost there
dnc literally only effects one other player second person i've seen say raid wide dmg increase.
I LOVE HOW WE ARE HAVING THE SAME TALKING POINTS EVERY TIME A CLASS that does shit dmg HEY YOUR SUPPORT ACCEPT YOUR SHIT CLASS. heavensward MCH outside a small niche use they would of never been brought into raids only till later updates did they hold top dps which at this point was last few major updates of the heavensward. MCH in stormblood literally where class was dropped by even the best of players cause it literally brought nothing to a raid even a dmg boost against a boss for 25 seconds Physical only.

IM NOT ASKING FOR SAM OR BLM dmg just asking some middle ground with good players being reward not Good players being rewarded hey least your helping someone else do better easily.

and i don't know what is wrong with nin but they literally do like less dmg on avg then tanks i've seen in ex runs more so if they have to move a lot least with dnc they can always dmg nin really got shafted.