nin and dnc buffs when?

[Drayos]

dnc literally only effects one other player second person i've seen say raid wide dmg increase.
I LOVE HOW WE ARE HAVING THE SAME TALKING POINTS EVERY TIME A CLASS that does shit dmg HEY YOUR SUPPORT ACCEPT YOUR SHIT CLASS. heavensward MCH outside a small niche use they would of never been brought into raids only till later updates did they hold top dps which at this point was last few major updates of the heavensward. MCH in stormblood literally where class was dropped by even the best of players cause it literally brought nothing to a raid even a dmg boost against a boss for 25 seconds Physical only.

IM NOT ASKING FOR SAM OR BLM dmg just asking some middle ground with good players being reward not Good players being rewarded hey least your helping someone else do better easily.

and i don't know what is wrong with nin but they literally do like less dmg on avg then tanks i've seen in ex runs more so if they have to move a lot least with dnc they can always dmg nin really got shafted.

right to the first point EXAMPLE

If u do 10,000 DPS And Able to provide a Additional 2500 DPS to a BLM in group, while a Monk can only obtain 11,000 DPS without Any offensive Utility, you will bench that Monk. u dont seem to reliese the games balanced on your RAID DPS, not ur Personal DPS.. your measured by how much DPS you bring to a Raid through ur Kit, Personal DPS numbers Do not matter in FFXIV like they do in other games such as WoW, hence why they frowned on by the company.

2) my point was against you saying classes are Equal in utility.

how can you say a Machinist with nothing but a 10% Damage reduction, which cannot stack with your own (which means U have litterally the same buff) Equal?, Machinist has 0 Unique utility, It offers Nothing that a other class can do, the fact you feel ur personal DPS should be on par, Calls to me that you want to BENCH classes with your own.

you Dont seem to understand, that If u provide high personal DPS and one of the highest Raid DPS, u will replace 90% of the DPS Classes in this game. because u'll create a Meta where u should stack 2 Dancers and 2 BLMS. which FFXIV heavily trys to Not let happen.

FFXIV is balanced on 8 man Content, not 4 man, Which means the MORE damage u Add Raid Wide the less DPS you will personally do, its how the games Entirely Balanced Utility v Damage. U seem to have no actually looked anything up, because ALOT of Support was gutted in SHB Release, ontop of this bards Utility was heavily nerfed to make room for Dancers Utility.

your class was RELEASED under "SYNERGY" its Reported to be SEs attempt at a Real Support Job, They made it CLEAR from Fanfest they dont intend the Dancer to be a high DPSer but a jack of All Trades, holding Defensive Utility, Offensive Utility, Off-Heals and DPS. Its basically the answer to a RDM who wants to try ranged physical DPS. stop Complaning that Support DPS have Lower DPS then pure, because its Utility v Personal is what they balance around the concept is

Every DPS Should add the SAME DPS Raid wide. Which means the More buffs u give to another the Less DPS u can do, this is to round u out to for example

Dancer, 9.5k Personal DPS. 3k Raid DPS = 12,500 Raid DPS

bard 10k Personal. 2.5k Raid DPS = 12,500

Monk 12,500 Personal DPS. 0 Raid DPS = 12,500

Machinist 12,500 Personal DPS. 0 Raid DPS = 12,500.

That is the type of balancing that happens in FFXIV, thats how it Supports the idea of both Pure DPS and Support DPS being required in a Raid. its not people saying "accept your shit class" its People who understand that you'd actually Cause other jobs to be Benched with your Demands, you cant just say "i wanna be Mid Pack DPS".. because u'll become Top Pack raid DPS if that was to happen.. which would then become problematic as u'd Bench Pure DPS.

hence why Machinists lost ALL Their utility when reworked, because they took DPS buffs which Ment SE nerfed their Utility. Same with bard, it took Utility nerfs and got buffed DPS Wise.

Dancer is Mid Pack Raid DPS, if not Above Average Raid DPS. your personal Numbers Dont = ur place on a DPS List. Because your responsible for a few number of the Other DPS's DPS Total which is what u've brought. you have to take how much DPS you gave the other DPS then Add it to ur Personal DPS to find your Raid DPS.

So if u've given a BLM 2000 DPS, u add it to ur personal DPS level if your below a ninjas DPS then yeah you need buffing as Ninjas Should have a higher Raid DPS then Dancer atleast by glances. but you shouldnt be Equalling a Class which has less Raid DPS then you. because it can not Facilitate a Purpose if ur managing this.

they did this in SB, which SAM did less DPS then a Monk, It made Monk Meta because of this happening. All ur causing is.

U get Buffed by 2k DPS.

Machinist gets buffed by 3k DPS.

BLM is Buffed by 5k

so ur buffed another 1k

So they then buff everything above you again. because Personal DPS isnt balancable in a game where Some Jobs fit into Raids better then others.

your balanced on RDPS, which is what everyone talks about, Personal DPS is Never talked about, this isnt WoW it aint balanced like WoW, and yes im pressuming u are from WoW because I had the same mentality walking into this game and very quickly learnt a Class can be 5k Behind in Personal DPS yet bench the Class for himself because of the utility he Holds.

Ninjas were the Worst DPS in the game during SB yet the most demanded Job in the game. If that doesnt tell you enough about FFXIV Balancing Systems. i dont know what will realistically.. but calling "BUFF ME" based on a Personal DPS Score wont go far in FFXIV Community nor SEs team, because Personal DPS Meters are Banned, ur never ment to know your Numbers. So outing urself by saying this is making u liable to ban if anything. and Mentioning Dummy parses Proves even less because ur not taking account of Melee v Ranged Uptime on boss monsters.

people arent saying your a Suipport "deal with ur shit class" because Support classes are actually the strongest in Meta.

look at SB, Bards, Ninjas, Dragoons all in high demand Yet all Low Personal DPS. BLM and SAM being Super high DPS yet Denied from Raids, We Dont give a hell about Personal DPS, most raids look for what will give their Raid the most DPS not particularly your own, hence why its deemed easier to get into Raiding with a Support class then a Pure DPS, because u dont have to be as Skilled in a group to provide use to a Raid.