Policy Change needed on "RMT & Services"

[JediFirefly]

I'm not going to argue all the points because I tend to agree that the RMT spam can be a bit extreme and reporting the player doesn't seem to be doing anything because hours later, they're still there doing the same thing.

However, your #1 item is not RMT in anyway. Mercs are offering clears for gil, in-game currency. RMT is "Real Money Trading". No real world money is changing hands in this instance. While I don't agree with the practice and won't use it, if you have nothing better to do with your gil and are willing to pay someone in game to do it for you, have at it as far as I'm concerned.

[Sythen]

However, your #1 item is not RMT in anyway. Mercs are offering clears for gil, in-game currency. RMT is "Real Money Trading". No real world money is changing hands in this instance. While I don't agree with the practice and won't use it, if you have nothing better to do with your gil and are willing to pay someone in game to do it for you, have at it as far as I'm concerned.

I agree, its not technically RMT, but if you think about it, if these people are advertising clears for Gil, Why don't they advertise that fact? Why go to discord to discuss it?

[JediFirefly]

I would guess if they are being 100% on the level that it may be easier to discuss terms and conditions and whatnot via voice chat as opposed to text, possibly?

[Sythen]

I would guess if they are being 100% on the level that it may be easier to discuss terms and conditions and whatnot via voice chat as opposed to text, possibly?

For discussion of what goes down, Voice is simpler and more convenient i will give you that, but if you look at all (the ones I've seen anyway) of these advertisements, they don't specify a any pricing in their advertisements, that why reporting them for "RMT" does nothing, as they arn't advertising RMT.

But going through discord means they can freely talk about pricing and exchange payment details without having to worry about being banned, as there is no evidence being logged by the servers through any in game chat methods.

If they were offering these services and only wanting payment in Gil, there is no issues advertising that or discussing the basics in game would there?

[JediFirefly]

You have a point, however I feel the bigger problem is the bots standing around the main aetheryte in every main city say spamming, or the alliance of teleporting BLM bots killing mobs that are the bigger issue with RMT.

Not the 1 or 2 merc PF groups that are up.

[Sythen]

You have a point, however I feel the bigger problem is the bots standing around the main aetheryte in every main city say spamming, or the alliance of teleporting BLM bots killing mobs that are the bigger issue with RMT.

Not the 1 or 2 merc PF groups that are up.

I completely agree, but i thought i would cover both under 1 post.

[Eriane_Elis]

I'm not going to argue all the points because I tend to agree that the RMT spam can be a bit extreme and reporting the player doesn't seem to be doing anything because hours later, they're still there doing the same thing.

However, your #1 item is not RMT in anyway. Mercs are offering clears for gil, in-game currency. RMT is "Real Money Trading". No real world money is changing hands in this instance. While I don't agree with the practice and won't use it, if you have nothing better to do with your gil and are willing to pay someone in game to do it for you, have at it as far as I'm concerned.

They band thousands of bots per week and do list their numbers. The problem is that they can't ban them immediately due to the policies put in place.

The solution is simple. Nobody buy RMT related stuff and they will go away. Right? :P

[ForteNightshade]

I'm not going to argue all the points because I tend to agree that the RMT spam can be a bit extreme and reporting the player doesn't seem to be doing anything because hours later, they're still there doing the same thing.

However, your #1 item is not RMT in anyway. Mercs are offering clears for gil, in-game currency. RMT is "Real Money Trading". No real world money is changing hands in this instance. While I don't agree with the practice and won't use it, if you have nothing better to do with your gil and are willing to pay someone in game to do it for you, have at it as far as I'm concerned.

If you see those adverts asking to DM through discord, they are exchanging real world money. Ultimate kills range from $300-1,200 depending on when you want it. Each kill, btw.