Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
They could just allow people to skip by voting at the start.
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And if people are so worried about bullying new players then they can just make it anonymous. So you can't see who vote for what.
To be honest, it's easy enough to see who the newbie is (only one level 50 when everyone else has multiples well past that point?). Much as I agree that it's hard to count it as optional when the rewards are so inflated, and it's aggravating sitting through it for the bajillionth time when there is no "newbie alert!" message so you know for a fact everyone has done it, there is no way to make a vote happen that won't risk the newbie being kicked for [insert made up reason here]. Or you get folk who queue up for a ten minute cutscene-less run, get voted into watching them all, and decide they don't have the time because they only planned on a quickie and they drop (or grief-DC), leaving the rest hanging on for a replacement, especially if they're a tank or healer, or it's offpeak times.

I'd say most folk would be ok with a vote-skip failing because there's a newbie. But that "gogogo" minority can be poisonous to someone who is still new enough that ARR MSQ is their story point: imagine if you went for your first run in a Full Party dungeon, and got kicked on the doorstep? Even if the false-kickers get punished, too late, that could push someone to give up entirely. As usual, the toxic few ruin things for everyone.