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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenVoice View Post
    As i recently posted, The best solution is having the same system that detects new people for bonuses to lock or unlock the CS's. This way no one can be pressured its all on the system. If there is a new player the system locks the CS and if not its unlocked.
    Then many people will just leave the group if they get a new player.

    Besides, if you want to run the MSQ roulette without cutscenes you will only get less than half the normal rewards, but that's no problem is it?
    I mean, you do understand that the only reason we get so good rewards from the MSQ roulette is because it is a bribe to get people to run the roulette despite the cutscenes.


    The best solution would be to rework Castrum Meridanium into solo instances. Barring that, the second best solution is actually the one currently in place - every other one can (and would) be abused too easily.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenVoice View Post
    As i recently posted, The best solution is having the same system that detects new people for bonuses to lock or unlock the CS's. This way no one can be pressured its all on the system. If there is a new player the system locks the CS and if not its unlocked.
    People will then kick the new player which will make the system think there aren't any, thus letting them skip cut scenes again.

    The current system is fine. All they should do is allow you to skip cut scenes if it's unsynced. That way people who are leveling alts or simply don't care about the story can continue abated. Although, I suppose it's a lot of work for not much gain.
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    JWag12787's Avatar
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    Kaiya Nakamura
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    I'd be okay with a "skip MSQ" toggle. If all party members have it toggled, they can run it with lower rewards and skip the MSQ cinematics. However, trying to purposely sidestep what was built in is definitely bad.


    I actually appreciated it when they first did it, as I never got to actually watch the cutscenes. Now? I'd rather skip them if the entire party has seen them and agrees to skip.
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    Gods Faith
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    My experience was similar, when in 2.1 skipping everything was a must as people would start the fight without you...I actually viewed and appreciated the story after doing MSQ 20 times.
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    Miss Eclipse
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    People fail to understand that this happened exacly because the majority of players were pushing new ones to go forward everytime.

    And now, by using that exploit, it could lead to something even worse, like "if you DC in MSQ dungeons, you get kicked out automatically" or something silly like that. (I am exaggerating for the sake of the image, I know something like that wouldn't happen).

    Sadly, if we can't skip cutscenes now, it's some of the community's fault for rushing throught it and pushing new players to complain. I personally don't really care about sitting throught the cutscenes, I just alt+tab and look at other stuff in the meanwhile. Yeah it's a tad annoying but not the end of the world... If you sign up for MSQ roulette, you should know it'll take a while. Grab a book or your phone and there you go c:
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    People fail to understand that this happened exacly because the majority of players were pushing new ones to go forward everytime.

    And now, by using that exploit, it could lead to something even worse, like "if you DC in MSQ dungeons, you get kicked out automatically" or something silly like that. (I am exaggerating for the sake of the image, I know something like that wouldn't happen).

    Sadly, if we can't skip cutscenes now, it's some of the community's fault for rushing throught it and pushing new players to complain. I personally don't really care about sitting throught the cutscenes, I just alt+tab and look at other stuff in the meanwhile. Yeah it's a tad annoying but not the end of the world... If you sign up for MSQ roulette, you should know it'll take a while. Grab a book or your phone and there you go c:
    I completely agree

    SE should really adjust the MSQ instances so that if you try to do this skip, it just forces you to sit through all the cutscenes you have missed. That'd stop the exploit dead in it's tracks, as all disconnecting would do is slow down your progress through the instance.
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    Voting will not help it will just result in the original issue people harassing the person who did not agree to skip. It was not only the harassment that was the issue, people were defeating bosses before new players were even out of the CS. This was really the only logical solution. People need to understand that they queued up for MSQ roulette you knew what you were getting into when you opened your duty finder. If you dont like the wait then dont do it get your xp elsewhere. It's easy xp at the cost of your patience, my suggestion is to grab a snack or something and prepare for your downtime.
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    Tiny Kyojin
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    simple solution:

    put in a system that detects people who are doing the instance for their first time. If theres no one in, skip becomes avaible. If they are, skip is unabled.

    done
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    I completely agree

    SE should really adjust the MSQ instances so that if you try to do this skip, it just forces you to sit through all the cutscenes you have missed. That'd stop the exploit dead in it's tracks, as all disconnecting would do is slow down your progress through the instance.
    And what if you DC not by choice but by your Internet dropping out, like my friend was? Should he have been punished for having a moment of unstable connection, as I'm sure we've all had?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    Voting will not help it will just result in the original issue people harassing the person who did not agree to skip. It was not only the harassment that was the issue, people were defeating bosses before new players were even out of the CS. This was really the only logical solution. People need to understand that they queued up for MSQ roulette you knew what you were getting into when you opened your duty finder. If you dont like the wait then dont do it get your xp elsewhere. It's easy xp at the cost of your patience, my suggestion is to grab a snack or something and prepare for your downtime.
    This seems like the most practical approach.
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    Unless I am misunderstanding the question; I am pretty sure there is an option to skip scenario cutscenes you have seen already.
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