Naming conventions of the first (research/speculations)

[dynus]

One thing I noticed while doing the gathering quests, is that Qeshi-Rae calls Mao-Ladd 'Mao' occasionally.

Makes me think that the B parts of the name have more in common with Padjal names than Miqo'te

[Iscah]

Male Mystel names might be surname-first after all.

From the Lv72 DPS role quest Vengeance in Defeat:

LUE-REEQ
...It occurs to me, my good woman, that I have yet to ask you your name. So quickly did we forge our friendship that I hardly noticed until now!

[Forename Surname]... Reeq and [Forename]... Yes, I rather like the sound of that. Reeq and [Forename], the daring duo! The brave bounty hunters, the scourge of sin eaters!

Edit: He's consistently referred to as Reeq by other characters as well, including his father.

[geekgirl101]

From what I've seen so far (and sorry for digging this up but it's relevant to the topic) there certainly is an interesting way in which Mystel are named. Here's a few I've come across where I've paired their names up and assume they are of close family:

Sue-Rend (M) (father)
Renda-Sue (F) (first-born daughter)
The similar naming thing is a strong indication one is the offspring of the other, if you read further down it's likely Renda is the daughter of Sue

*Mei-Tatch (M) (father)
Tatcha-Roi (F) (mother)
Tatcha-Mei (F) (first-born daughter)
Shee-Tatch (M) (child)
*As above however Mei is of a different clan

*Kee-Satt (M) (father)
Sasha-Kee (F) (mother)
Shai-Satt (M) (child)
*As above

Rae-Qesh (M) (father)
Sasha-Rae (F) (mother)
Qeshi-Rae (F) (first-born daughter)
Sasha is probably the wife of Rae with Qeshi as their daughter

Moa-Mosch (M) (father)
Zumie-Moa (F) (mother)
Mosha-Moa (F) (first-born daughter)
Zao-Mosch (M) (child)
*Moshei-Lea (F) (child?)
Possibly couples and offspring
*may be part of the family

Tio-Reeq (M) (brother?)
Vroi-Reeq (M) (brother?)
Lue-Reeq (M) (brother?)
Since both are male this would indicate they're likely brothers or one may be a father of the other 2

Mao-Ladd (M) (brother)
Chei-Ladd (M) (brother)
As above

Nunsi-Lue (F) (mother)
Chora-Lue (F) (first-born daughter)
Zoi-Chorr (M) (child)
Bea-Chorr (M) (child)
Due to their naming it's most likely they're related

Chai-Nuzz (M) (husband)
Dulia-Chai (F) (wife)
Confirmed husband/wife duo on the First

Zia-Bostt (M) (husband?)
Bosta-Loe (F) (wife?)
Similarity in names might indicate they're a couple

There seems to also be a near-balance of male/female ratio, however there are very few of the darker clan in comparison to the lighter clan at a ratio of 1:10. The different clans share the same naming system and it would also seem the same marital system which may be more closer to Keepers of the Sun than Hyur as I've often come across names split across the continent with very few actually remaining together in the same location like with the Chai couple. It also appears they are not limited to only mating with those of the same clan as with the Tatch and Satt families, this might be down to their dwindling numbers, however it appears that the lighter clan gene is more dominant as none of their children carry the darker clan gene.

From what we know married females have their given name followed by the given name of their partner. This is why I think that Sasha-Rae and Rae-Qesh are most likely husband/wife and Qeshi-Rae is most likely their daughter. From the looks of it the daughter's given name as their father's family name and ending in an A or I and SCH replaced with SH, whilst the sons' family name is the same as their fathers' given name. This indicates that Mei-Tatch is the father of Tatcha-Mei rather than the other way round since Mei is from a different clan, leaving Shee-Tatch as possibly his son and Tatcha-Roi as possibly his wife.

Since we've kinda determined that daughter's given names are similar to their father's names then this would indicate that the Lue couple are a mother/daughter pair and are part of the Chorr family rather than being related to Lue-Reeq (unless he took them both as mates which then puts Tio and Vroi as possibly his sons and either Zoi or Bea could've been a previous partner.)

I did look at other other pairings such as Moshei-Lea maybe being a daughter from the Moa family. If Moshei is from the Moa family then this would indicate the first born daughter is named after the father with their names reversed, so Mosha-Moa would be their first daughter.

[Iscah]

From what I've seen so far (and sorry for digging this up but it's relevant to the topic) there certainly is an interesting way in which Mystel are named. Here's a few I've come across where I've paired their names up and assume they are of close family:

Is there any reason to assume those people are related though? Or are you basing this entirely on their names?

Having looked up the characters, the "family groups" you've suggested are rarely from the same town, and some of the characters you're proposing to be parents of adult children don't seem likely at all to me. (eg. Kee-Satt, the Moonkeeper miner from a sidequest chain.)

It's just as possible that there are common recurring name elements, and you can't guess relatives from their names any more than you could assume everyone in the real world with the same common surname is related.

Or the names might just be something other than family names. As covered above, Mao-Ladd is "Mao" and Lue-Reeq is "Reeq", so we can't even be sure if there's a consistent individual-name and family-name element, or which one is which.

[geekgirl101]

Is there any reason to assume those people are related though? Or are you basing this entirely on their names?

Having looked up the characters, the "family groups" you've suggested are rarely from the same town, and some of the characters you're proposing to be parents of adult children don't seem likely at all to me. (eg. Kee-Satt, the Moonkeeper miner from a sidequest chain.)

It's just as possible that there are common recurring name elements, and you can't guess relatives from their names any more than you could assume everyone in the real world with the same common surname is related.

Or the names might just be something other than family names. As covered above, Mao-Ladd is "Mao" and Lue-Reeq is "Reeq", so we can't even be sure if there's a consistent individual-name and family-name element, or which one is which.

I've paired them on the assumption they are related as parent/child, but ofc they could be brothers/sisters/cousins etc. The names however do give indication that they are related in some way.

[Iscah]

The names however do give indication that they are related in some way.

The names don't indicate they are related though, only that they could be related if naming patterns run as you suggest they do.

We don't know enough to be talking in absolute terms at this point.

[SerenityIsBae]

I don't think the ending of Viis names relates to occupation. The NPC that leads the FATE chain with her two companions (I think Myalna is her name) doesn't follow this convention and Taina who (from dialogue put together from various stages in the story) is a patrol mainly for the temple grounds. Also Ciulle seems to be a cook or kitchen hand while Korille references her patrols and Lanille is a senior shaman. I think the names have a language significance and the suffixes may actually mean something.

[LathyrusLoon]

year later do we have anything else for the Ronso? :/

[Anarnee]

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it in the thread yet but I was running around in Eulmore and there is a Drahn NPC named "Dawnden" so I assume Dawn is a stem for the Drahn/Galdjent names too.

Edit: Decided to go through as I'm doing ShB on an alt and these are the stems I've found that are not currently in the top post:

Dawn - From Dawnden in Eulmore
Gly - From Glynard in Crystarium
Dal - From Dalric in Twine
Ann - Annine in Twine
Bran - Branden in Tank Role Quest
Saul - Sauldia in Tank Role Quest
Tad - Tadric in Tank Role Quest
Lys - From Lysard in Clearmelt/Lakeland.
Vonn - Vonnden at Sullen.

Will update as I find more!

[Anarnee]

Necroing this thread again because I've been doing some writing with a friend and we're doing stuff in Norvrandt so I'm digging for information.

I know that the person that made the thread is not active anymore, but I found some info on the Mystel names that I don't think got covered in this thread and I thought it might be nice to post in case anyone else ends up looking for the same info later down the line!

Female Mystel names consist of "forename + birth place + surname" while Male Mystel names consist of "birthplace + forename + surname".

For example, Chai-Nuzz Mewlah and Dulia-Chai Mewlah should be known as the Mewlahs rather than the Chais.

From FFXIVXD on Twitter

Can anyone tell me where this information comes from? I assumed Encyclopedia Eorzea III, I don't have my hands on it yet though so I can't confirm.

Does anyone know if the Elves and Humes got more info in there for the names? From what I gathered, they seem to share name roots, and they seem a mix of English/Germanic/General Fantasy vibes.

I love Norvrandt and every bit of me wants so badly for the devs to tell us more about this world.