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    Zyneste's Avatar
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    Zyneste Azurox
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80

    Devs, can Casters please have 6 role skills like the other roles?

    As casters we only have four role skills. It was an obvious place for cuts as Break is irrelevant with Lucid on a 60 second time, Drain having a dead potency/heal on SB arrival, Diversion is irrelevant because of the new Emnity focused stance, and Manashift as useful as it was, will have no real place with Lucid on a 60 second timer. This leaves Erase and Apocatastasis.

    Erase, although weak provides a quirky dot cleanse with a small heal on the OGCD! A HEAL FOR CASTERS ON THE OGCD. AAAHHH. It's my favorite underdog of a skill. Even if its weak I still prefer it be accessible than to have just deleted it. In this way, when I see someone at an uncomfortable level of health with an AOE incoming, I can toss it onto them to give them a much better chance of living than if I had done nothing. When I get to cleanse a dot I'm like wooooo! I did the thingggg.




    Apocatastasis is my second addle! I loooove popping it just before a magic tank buster on the tank or if I see a DPS with a vuln stack or in questionable health for an upcoming aoe. Its been a solid skill, really encompassing the defensive utility side of caster since it was just a BLM only skill!




    Having the ability to raise is great for progression, but hitting that raise button never feels good for anyone. It really is much more satisfying to see a player survive something from your influence as a caster than to just raise them after they die.


    I know not everyone jumps for joy when they think about these skills, but I really do. I am so bummed that they are going away without any sort of replacement. I don't need any modifications to the skills, but I'd take them so long as their original purpose stays in tact. I would love you forever SE. p-p <3

    ------------------------------ Role skills ------------------------------
    Tanks (7):


    Healers (6):


    Melee (6):


    Ranged (6):


    Casters (4):
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    Last edited by Zyneste; 05-31-2019 at 02:44 PM.

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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Apocatastasis and palisade going away are the 2 role actions i'll miss the most i hope they change their mind about them
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Apocatastasis and palisade going away are the 2 role actions i'll miss the most i hope they change their mind about them
    Honestly those should have went to the healers as Protect and Shell. Short Def CD's.
    (3)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Leon Reddas
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 77
    I still don't understand why ranged got to keep Peloton, think it's literally the only role action left over that doesn't do anything during combat. Some could say it's iconic, well Protect just got removed so I think anything goes at this stage. Bloodbath (magic variant) could have been nice as.a Caster action as well seeing as Drain no longer exists....
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I still don't understand why ranged got to keep Peloton, think it's literally the only role action left over that doesn't do anything during combat. Some could say it's iconic, well Protect just got removed so I think anything goes at this stage. Bloodbath (magic variant) could have been nice as.a Caster action as well seeing as Drain no longer exists....
    If you take my Peloton I will shank you.

    >:C
    (11)
    "Consider this old adage: When a Bard sings alone in a desert, and no one is around to hear him... Is he truly singing?"

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    Magni Henriksson
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    Diabolos
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    Viper Lv 100
    Wait, what the hell? Ranged Physical is losing Refresh?
    What the fuc—
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    Last edited by Fredco191; 06-17-2019 at 06:57 AM.

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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    Wait, what the hell? Ranged Physical is losing Refesh?
    What the fuc—
    No longer will we be able to give the healers and casters MP for comms.
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I still don't understand why ranged got to keep Peloton, think it's literally the only role action left over that doesn't do anything during combat. Some could say it's iconic, well Protect just got removed so I think anything goes at this stage. Bloodbath (magic variant) could have been nice as.a Caster action as well seeing as Drain no longer exists....

    Protect probably got removed because it could be modified to be automatic. No need for an action that can just be replaced by tweaking defense values, and doing so makes it better for people just raised and for healers to not need to recast it.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    i'm fine with it. never really used Apo and Erase could never use on yourself.
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I used Erase now and again, was kind of niche but a neat skill nonetheless. I didn't use Apo but then again I never raided on Caster either so that's probably why, does seem useful.

    On the flip side, not sure why tanks still need shirk. Tank swapping is just the tanks flipping their stance switches and the OT provoking.
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